What the hell were they thinking? To me it is a sign that Alberto knows Galen is essentially finished as a top competitor in international championships. Would Alberto have had Galen compete if he were 25 with a potentially precarious injury? This is not the way NOP usually operates and it speaks volumes.
It's easy to second-guess with the benefit of hindsight.
rigor mortis wrote:
It's easy to second-guess with the benefit of hindsight.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindsight_bias
You are correct. However, in a thread I titled “Galen Will NOT run Chicago, “ I explained well beforehand that it was absurd for him to do it.
jiaaf wrote:
What the hell were they thinking? To me it is a sign that Alberto knows Galen is essentially finished as a top competitor in international championships. Would Alberto have had Galen compete if he were 25 with a potentially precarious injury? This is not the way NOP usually operates and it speaks volumes.
He ran a second consecutive 206. A 2019 Spring marathon actually means nothing to him, the focus is on the 2020 trials. I think this might have been known before Chicago. Doctors probably said he'd be able to do it, then surgery.
Now maybe it was "closer" than they thought, but I have no doubt that all information was considered prior to Chicago.
Appreciate Rupp.
Oh Please wrote:
jiaaf wrote:
What the hell were they thinking? To me it is a sign that Alberto knows Galen is essentially finished as a top competitor in international championships. Would Alberto have had Galen compete if he were 25 with a potentially precarious injury? This is not the way NOP usually operates and it speaks volumes.
He ran a second consecutive 206. A 2019 Spring marathon actually means nothing to him, the focus is on the 2020 trials. I think this might have been known before Chicago. Doctors probably said he'd be able to do it, then surgery.
Now maybe it was "closer" than they thought, but I have no doubt that all information was considered prior to Chicago.
Appreciate Rupp.
Well it strikes me as more of a situation where Alberto figures this is it...Galen is going to be 34 at the next Olympics and he will never be the same runner post surgery. IF the Olympics are the focus, do NOT run Chicago. They gave up.
Rupp is done.
US men's marathoning will suck even more than usual for the next however many years. Someone will go sub-2 for real before we have one guy go sub-2:10 again.
Admittedly I haven't read a ton about it, but it sounds to me like it was a nagging issue that eventually was going to require surgery regardless of whether he ran Chicago.
rigor mortis wrote:
Admittedly I haven't read a ton about it, but it sounds to me like it was a nagging issue that eventually was going to require surgery regardless of whether he ran Chicago.
Maybe you are correct but then why run Chicago? They knew it was a problem and Alberto is usually careful. Again it seems like more of a last hurrah. Maybe Galen knows he has fought the good fight and now it is over.
Possibly he ran Chicago to obtain the prize money that goes to the top 5.
jiaaf wrote:
rigor mortis wrote:
Admittedly I haven't read a ton about it, but it sounds to me like it was a nagging issue that eventually was going to require surgery regardless of whether he ran Chicago.
Maybe you are correct but then why run Chicago? They knew it was a problem and Alberto is usually careful. Again it seems like more of a last hurrah. Maybe Galen knows he has fought the good fight and now it is over.
Because he has to take down time after chicago anyways. I'd imagine the surgery downtime would be the same regardless of whether he ran chicago or not.
Knowing what we know now that 2:06 was probably the equivalent of a 2:03 healthy
ON DA LOW GALEN WAS REALLY DA TEST SUBJECT AT CHICAGO FO ALBERTO'S NEW PAIN RELIEF DRUG THAT WASN'T GONNA BE TESTABLE
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ThatAverageRunner wrote:
jiaaf wrote:
Maybe you are correct but then why run Chicago? They knew it was a problem and Alberto is usually careful. Again it seems like more of a last hurrah. Maybe Galen knows he has fought the good fight and now it is over.
Because he has to take down time after chicago anyways. I'd imagine the surgery downtime would be the same regardless of whether he ran chicago or not.
So running Chicago did no further damage? He admitted he could barely walk the next day.
I'm sure he had several thousand reasons to run Chicago...
Unlike the hobbyjoggers and wannabe coaches that inhabit this shithole, Rupp gets paid to run.
Regardless, he needed surgery and anyone who tells you that Haglund’s can be overcome with therapy isn’t running 100 miles a week.
jiaaf wrote:
ThatAverageRunner wrote:
Because he has to take down time after chicago anyways. I'd imagine the surgery downtime would be the same regardless of whether he ran chicago or not.
So running Chicago did no further damage? He admitted he could barely walk the next day.
The surgery was getting done regardless. The tendon was getting unattached and reattached no matter what. It's unlikely that running the marathon really changed the prognosis for the surgery or recovery. He ran a decent time and made some money along the way with probably the same end results for surgery and recovery.
Some of you have no idea what you are talking about. There is a reason Galen did not run the Copenhagen half marathon. There is a reason Galen should not have run Chicago.
jiaaf wrote:
rigor mortis wrote:
It's easy to second-guess with the benefit of hindsight.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindsight_biasYou are correct. However, in a thread I titled “Galen Will NOT run Chicago, “ I explained well beforehand that it was absurd for him to do it.
You made a prediction and now you are trying to explain why your prediction was right even though it was proven WRONG.
It’s ok. Everyone makes incorrect predictions.
It’s likely nobody remembered the prediction you made until you reminded us in your previous message. This is called telling on yourself.
jiaaf wrote:
Some of you have no idea what you are talking about. There is a reason Galen did not run the Copenhagen half marathon. There is a reason Galen should not have run Chicago.
Think he skipped Copenhagen so that he COULD do Chicago. Probably knew all along he'd have surgery regardless.
This probably helps explain his relatively sunny demeanor after the race, saying he'd done all he could handle
RIP: D3 All-American Frank Csorba - who ran 13:56 in March - dead
RENATO can you talk about the preparation of Emile Cairess 2:06
Running for Bowerman Track Club used to be cool now its embarrassing
Hats off to my dad. He just ran a 1:42 Half Marathon and turns 75 in 2 months!
Great interview with Steve Cram - says Jakob has no chance of WRs this year
Rest in Peace Adrian Lehmann - 2:11 Swiss marathoner. Dies of heart attack.