Agreed.
Title should be changed to World women, All World women going to OR destroy USA women going to CO.
Top 5 women at OR represent 3 different continents.
Agreed.
Title should be changed to World women, All World women going to OR destroy USA women going to CO.
Top 5 women at OR represent 3 different continents.
joedirt wrote:
lagsun wrote:
Foreign athletes don't bother me but interesting Oregon seems to get a pass while other programs are called out. Here are the countries of their top 7 women today:
Australia
Poland
Kenya
Spain
Sweden
UK
California
Most of the times when programs are relying heavily on foreigners, they throw out the excuse it is because US athletes don't want to run there (UTEP, UNM, Alabama, Arkansas, etc.) or as she argued at NCAA's last year that San Francisco was a real multi-national location and the composition of the athletes was merely a reflection of the existing culture. What is the excuse in Oregon? US athletes typically want to run there, and it's not like Oregon is this melting pot of cultures. What I'd like to see is honesty if she is interviewed at Nationals: "Yeah, the American athletes were too entitled so we told them to go someplace else and we decided it was in the best interest of the program to develop Olympic athletes for other countries."
Easy, tiger. John developed many, many Americans in Fayetteville- mostly he developed men.
Reina
Pat Vaughn
Zinn
Cooper
Matt Taylor
Lincoln
Baker
Etc
Any money given to a foreign athlete is money not given to a US athlete. Instead of developing our own, these schools are in the business of developing athletes from other nations.
Before some of you throw out the typical BS of “maybe the Americans should get better” or “these coaches are in the business to win”, please remember that the undertrained and uncoached in HS here could develop while in college. Instead we give scholarships to some Kip guy who never even heard of the school he is going to.
34bat wrote:
Anyone know what's up with Brie Oakley? Injured?
She went to Cal, what did you expect?
Weren't the Colorado women raked 1st a few years ago and choked? I honestly think the rankings and Wetmore put too much pressure on those girls, lat time they choked Wetmore basically told them they sucked and they didn't do what they needed to do that day?
Yes I'm a hater wrote:
34bat wrote:
Anyone know what's up with Brie Oakley? Injured?
She went to Cal, what did you expect?
And Bethen Knights and Marissa Williams as long as we are talking about former prep stars at Cal.
Robert Brandt
Well it ain't no big secret, if you're a prep star avoid Cal like the plague or you ain't gonna be a college star... whatever they got going there isn't worth it
All the Cal girls have stress fractures.
Hey hey hey...
Oregon had a few US guys recruited and they didn't go there in the end.
Oregon has developed one of the US best athletes ever Galen Rupp + King Ches.
RESPECT OREGON
lagsun wrote:
Foreign athletes don't bother me but interesting Oregon seems to get a pass while other programs are called out. Here are the countries of their top 7 women today:
Australia
Poland
Kenya
Spain
Sweden
UK
California
Doesn’t even make sense to call teams out for that. Who cares? Some runners are better than others, maybe these uptight Americans should find faster runners instead of complaining about their competition.
lagsun wrote:
Foreign athletes don't bother me but interesting Oregon seems to get a pass while other programs are called out. Here are the countries of their top 7 women today:
Australia
Poland
Kenya
Spain
Sweden
UK
California
When Helen Lehman-Winters puts together a winning team from only American athletes then I'll be impressed. She has never been successful without recruiting from overseas. She's a joke of a coach. She can only win by stacking the odds. Oregon/Nike University is disgraceful to begin with, and now they've taken it to an even lower level by having Lehman-Winters on staff.
Everyone should read the book by Joshua Hunt - University of Nike. "“In this illuminating case study Joshua Hunt connects the dots between endorsement deals and campus sexual assault. University of Nike is a must read for anyone worried about the higher-education industrial complex, which should be all of us.” —Malcolm Harris, author of Kids These Days"
kssks wrote:
Hey hey hey...
Oregon had a few US guys recruited and they didn't go there in the end.
Oregon has developed one of the US best athletes ever Galen Rupp + King Ches.
RESPECT OREGON
No Oregon didn't develop Galen Rupp. Salazar developed Galen Rupp. He coached him from high school to present. Galen's had no other coach since high school. Where have you been?
Beentheredonethat wrote:
Well it ain't no big secret, if you're a prep star avoid Cal like the plague or you ain't gonna be a college star... whatever they got going there isn't worth it
Would you rather spend your time as an injured collegiate never was with a degree from Cal or have a NCAA all American national championship career with a degree from Oregon?
Would u rather wrote:
Beentheredonethat wrote:
Well it ain't no big secret, if you're a prep star avoid Cal like the plague or you ain't gonna be a college star... whatever they got going there isn't worth it
Would you rather spend your time as an injured collegiate never was with a degree from Cal or have a NCAA all American national championship career with a degree from Oregon?
I'm still young, but I'd take the Oregon route especially if you guarantee in this path I'd have those athletic credentials. There are some things money can never buy. Furthermore, if you're hard-working and ambitious enough, you can make something of yourself with a degree from any school.
Whenever i read someone ranting about foreigners i imagine an old white male with a trump van.
lagsun wrote:
Foreign athletes don't bother me but interesting Oregon seems to get a pass while other programs are called out. Here are the countries of their top 7 women today:
Australia
Poland
Kenya
Spain
Sweden
UK
California
california is a country now?
Talon Hull is much improved. He was 144th in ncaa xc last year. He was very good in the 2 in high school, 8:46.9, a step back in the mile (4:08) and a couple steps back in the 800 (1:53.9). If he handles 10k well, he figures to be All American.
On the distaff side, Oregon's 1500m outdoor champ is running awfully good in xc, although 1500 to 6k isn't the kind of change that 1500 to 10k is on the men's side.
If it was about academics they would have been at uw as fresman. Oregon will always be a running powerhouse because the community and the school care.
zxcvzxcv wrote:
Talon Hull is much improved. He was 144th in ncaa xc last year. He was very good in the 2 in high school, 8:46.9, a step back in the mile (4:08) and a couple steps back in the 800 (1:53.9). If he handles 10k well, he figures to be All American.
On the distaff side, Oregon's 1500m outdoor champ is running awfully good in xc, although 1500 to 6k isn't the kind of change that 1500 to 10k is on the men's side.
He medalled at the World Mountain Running Champs the summer before Washington. He's a class act, as is Oregon' s Levi Thomet - also a medalist a few years earlier. Happy to see them both back in the mix collegiately (now if only all the juniors you send overseas could be that cool) ;)