Kate Murphy Retires From Collegiate Running

Are her injuries that insurmountable or does Oregon want to move her to medical so it doesn’t count against their limits? Would she not consider transferring?

Ducks blow out another one . What might have been .

Sadly one more example that it might not be the best idea to be a phenom in HS. Everyone keeps thinking we’ve had this long line of once in a generation talents but it seems like it’s more likely these girls aren’t that talented and just are working too extremely hard too early. Murphy’s injuries were totally the type that can be cause by over use.

When are coaches and parents going to learn to be a little patient on these things.

Milesplit article.

I don’t think these girls are doing any more training than their peers but they are traveling more and racing at the highest level which does shorten a running career.

1. What does medically retire mean? Does Oregon still give her a full ride?

2. Does anyone else think this is kind of a quick hook on her career? She was running HS in 2017. So she's hurt for 1 year and calls it quits. I remember when I was a teen and hurt a year felt like eternity but now at 45, 1 year feels like 1 month.

3. This is why no one should go to Oregon to run. If she was smart enough to get a full ride to Stanford, she should have gone there. Let's hope she's not working at that convenience store across from Hayward like another Duck I saw at the Olympic Trials a few years back.

confused 45 year old wrote:

Let's hope she's not working at that convenience store across from Hayward like another Duck I saw at the Olympic Trials a few years back.

People who look down on others who work in the places that they shop are pretty awful.

*sigh* joins Sarah Baxter in the Duckbin of running history.

Indoor? wrote:

Sadly one more example that it might not be the best idea to be a phenom in HS. Everyone keeps thinking we’ve had this long line of once in a generation talents but it seems like it’s more likely these girls aren’t that talented and just are working too extremely hard too early. Murphy’s injuries were totally the type that can be cause by over use.

Young African phenoms don't have those issues.

The difference?

There are not so many crazy doctor quacks in Africa who are looking to mess up young runners for big bucks.

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Indoor? wrote:

Sadly one more example that it might not be the best idea to be a phenom in HS. Everyone keeps thinking we’ve had this long line of once in a generation talents but it seems like it’s more likely these girls aren’t that talented and just are working too extremely hard too early. Murphy’s injuries were totally the type that can be cause by over use.

Young African phenoms don't have those issues.

The difference?

There are not so many crazy doctor quacks in Africa who are looking to mess up young runners for big bucks.

Since "16 year old" Kenyans and Ethios are typically already 23, they avoid the problems faced by young talents in the West.

Hounddogharrier wrote:

Ducks blow out another one . What might have been .

+1

It's clear most of you in this thread know little more about the situation than what you read in the thread title.

Murphy makes it clear that this issue has been bothering her for the past two years, since she was in high school. Obviously she was able to ignore it to some capacity back then, as she was still running, but I imagine the condition progressed to the point where that was no longer possible. Regardless, it was present before she got to Oregon.

For that matter, it's not something I would consider to be a typical overuse injury either. Her main issue, popliteal artery entrapment syndrome (PAES), is essentially caused by a genetic defect. The muscles and tendons of the leg are positioned in such a way that they compress an artery in the knee, restricting bloodflow to the lower leg. Obviously as a runner trains, the calf muscles will grow over time, only increasing compression and furthering the problem.

It's sad to see such a great talent held back by an unlucky hand of cards. I hope she enjoys what else college has to offer, and may return to running as soon as her body allows it, whenever that may be.

Popliteal artery entrapment syndrome happens in cyclists enough that it's known to be thing in the sport. People complain that it's like they can only use one leg to ride. Often times surgery is successful, but sometimes it is not.

This is not an overuse injury at all. It's genetic. And it's heartbreaking to see someone's hopes be derailed by it. She'll be fine longterm, but you guys know how it is when you suddenly lose your first love, try to hang on and then realize it's over. It's horrible. It sucks the life out of you. I wish her the best and hope she realizes she'll love again.

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Indoor? wrote:

Sadly one more example that it might not be the best idea to be a phenom in HS. Everyone keeps thinking we’ve had this long line of once in a generation talents but it seems like it’s more likely these girls aren’t that talented and just are working too extremely hard too early. Murphy’s injuries were totally the type that can be cause by over use.

Young African phenoms don't have those issues.

The difference?

There are not so many crazy doctor quacks in Africa who are looking to mess up young runners for big bucks.

I have no direct knowledge of K.M. and her road racing history; I do know far too many US youth road race. I've seen US youth race under the radar. I have seen US youth (college and younger) race under faux names. I have seen US youth drop out right before they cross the line in order to stay below the radar. I have seen US youth win road races and immediately take off and skip award ceremony in order to stay below radar. I am sure east Africans from age 12 to 15 are not racing October Marathons on asphalt and concrete.

A good example of what "no direct knowledge" means. No evidence that what you are describing has anything to do with Murphy ( or perhaps any actual runner).

The people on this board are good evidence of why someone like Trump can thrive as a politician. Those coming on and saying stuff about how she was overtrained...do you actually know that?

My reading of the situation is that she had an extremely rare issue in her leg that kept her out for two years, she tried to come back but it didn't work and now she has decided to move on. It's devastating, but it sounds like the right move for all parties involved.

The real truth is simple.

Oregon wants he scholarship to use. By declaring he medical they get her scholarship without reducing Murphy and battling her.

No doubt in my mind they pressured her to do this to save money. They likely invested a full in her.

Training to wrote:

The real truth is simple.

Oregon wants he scholarship to use. By declaring he medical they get her scholarship without reducing Murphy and battling her.

No doubt in my mind they pressured her to do this to save money. They likely invested a full in her.

This is likely close to the truth. Reducing aid gets ugly for coaches. This way she maintains her scholarship and the new staff has their recruiting potential increased.

You imply that Oregon staff is acting insidiously. You don't go to Oregon to be treated with kid gloves.

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Indoor? wrote:

Sadly one more example that it might not be the best idea to be a phenom in HS. Everyone keeps thinking we’ve had this long line of once in a generation talents but it seems like it’s more likely these girls aren’t that talented and just are working too extremely hard too early. Murphy’s injuries were totally the type that can be cause by over use.

Young African phenoms don't have those issues.

The difference?

There are not so many crazy doctor quacks in Africa who are looking to mess up young runners for big bucks.

LOL

you obviously have not been to Africa.