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Duke and Cal, her other visits, would offer better academics, in my opinion, and both have developed some outstanding runners (Rowbury, Torrence) while missing on quite a few as well.
1) Rowbury and Torrence were a long time ago
2) so Duke and Cal and other Ivies offer better academics? Thanks for the tip, we’ll see how long Dartmouth survives once the word gets out. What does she want to major in, and what are her academic priorities? You don’t have to reveal it here, but I am sure you must know in order to know that Duke or Cal would have been better for her.
Yes, Duke and Cal and other Ivies offer better academics. On prestige, the Ivies go as follows:
1. Harvard/Princeton
3. Yale
4. Columbia
5. Cornell
6. Brown
7. Dartmouth or Penn
UC Berkeley offers probably the best collection of graduate programs of any institution.
For instance, they are #3 in Engineering, Duke #26, Dartmouth unranked.
Cal is tied for #1 in economics. Duke is #16, tied with Cornell. Dartmouth is unranked.
Berkeley is tied for #1 in English, Columbia and Penn #3, Penn #6, Yale #8, Duke #13
Dartmouth's unranked in most. It offers only 18 Ph.D. programs, so it is not going to be ranked and where it does offer degrees, as in engineering, it is not highly ranked. If you don't have top level graduate programs, you just don't get the same level of faculty. That's why your Dartmouth faculty are all in all not competitive with those of other Ivies or Cal.
I found one where they are rated. Dartmouth is #10 in business schools, but Berkeley is #7, Columbia #9, Duke and Yale #11, Cornell #15.
On the national universities ranking, Dartmouth is #12, which is fine, but that's behind Harvard, Princeton, Yale, Columbia, Penn, Cornell, and Duke, and just ahead of Brown and Cornell. Cal is back at #22 because largely of funding issues.
But Cal, Brown, and Cornell have far superior faculty.
https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universitieshttps://www.usnews.com/best-graduate-schools