Boulder, CO - Bramble & Hare murder just hours before 2017 BolderBoulder 10K, update on trial-

Updates:

http://www.dailycamera.com/news/boulder/ci_31838051/murder-trial-fatal-downtown-boulder-shooting-pushed-back

Boulder Pearl st murder in 2017 wrote:

Updates:

http://www.dailycamera.com/news/boulder/ci_31838051/murder-trial-fatal-downtown-boulder-shooting-pushed-back

Why dont ya solve the Jon Benet Ramsey murder first, ya morans.

Is English a second language for everyone in Colorado now? Neither the OP nor the linked story tell me what happened. They went outside, shots were fired, then one guy came back in the bar and the other shot him there?

You can do some google research but basically here’s the original story:

https://denver.cbslocal.com/2017/06/01/boulder-shooting-bramble-hare/

The story was crazy because I was racing the BolderBoulder 10k that morning in 2017 (the murder took place approx 5 hours before the citizens race) and I remember seeing the police tape and the bullet holes in the wooden front door. I also looked up the suspect’s Facebook account and he was a self employed 2nd amendment loving right-wingnut web designer with elementary web design skills. Although he lived out here in Boulder, it didn’t appear his web development skills were up to par or all that special. On the day of the BolderBoulder10k at midnight he was at the Bramble and Hare place on pearl st which is a fancy bar and restaurant. He basically got into a fight with an old man over a woman and then shot and killed him. I kept thinking to myself like why didn’t this guy give up his gun and stop trying to carry for self defense AND why didn’t he just take some anger management classes and go race the BolderBoulder 10K for stress relief hours later? Why did he basically sentence himself to life in prison by acting like a total idiot?

Because you can neither argue with or reason with crazy.

Its egun wrote:

Because you can neither argue with or reason with crazy.

I’m sure we all have a friend or two in college in need of some anger management classes

Guilty as charged i bet

A pos punk is what he is

That’s his website for his business it looks like

Defense attorneys argued that because he’d pooped himself it’s self defense. The suspects pooped pants were shown as evidence

Update- Louis Sebastian took the stand in his defense.

http://www.dailycamera.com/news/boulder/ci_32464704/louis-sebastian-tells-judge-he-will-take-stand

It sounds like the guy was beat up on Pearl st when he exited Bramble and Hare to get on his bike and leave. He was followed by the guy who then beat him up and smashed his head into a tree guard (one of those metal rails on the ground). Sebastian fired at him outside and then folllowed the attacker back into Bramble and Hare and fired one more shot. Sebastian was restrained and beat up more by the store employee who was holding him down until police arrived.

Question is- first degree murder OR self defense? Guess we’ll find out in just a few weeks

Too bad these guys fought when they could have cooled their jets and raced the BolderBoulder 10k which was to take place hours later!!!!

The weird thing is that there was another gun incident the day before the 2016 BolderBoulder on the creek path below the bridge on Broadway and Canyon.

I'm confused. He was obviously a web designer in 1996. What has he been doing the last twelve years?

Was Mr Sebastian attacked ? wrote:

Update- Louis Sebastian took the stand in his defense.

http://www.dailycamera.com/news/boulder/ci_32464704/louis-sebastian-tells-judge-he-will-take-stand

It sounds like this guy is screwed. Witnesses say they heard him ask the victim if he wanted to step outside, and witnesses say they heard the victim say "no, no, please don't" after Sebastian had followed the victim back into the restaurant to fire the final shot. Based on that limited information, it's hard to cite self-defense.

These 2nd amendment d-bags who carry around guns in their pockets wherever they go and are quick to pull them out need to be aware of this story.

coincidence wrote:

The weird thing is that there was another gun incident the day before the 2016 BolderBoulder on the creek path below the bridge on Broadway and Canyon.

That one was quite a spectacle I hear. What is it about the BolderBoulder that turns up the competitive juices and the heat on people???

Bryson Fischer was pumped with lead by Boulder Police. I wish they could release the body cam on that one for YouTube. That one would be interesting

killermike wrote:

Was Mr Sebastian attacked ? wrote:

Update- Louis Sebastian took the stand in his defense.

http://www.dailycamera.com/news/boulder/ci_32464704/louis-sebastian-tells-judge-he-will-take-stand

It sounds like this guy is screwed. Witnesses say they heard him ask the victim if he wanted to step outside, and witnesses say they heard the victim say "no, no, please don't" after Sebastian had followed the victim back into the restaurant to fire the final shot. Based on that limited information, it's hard to cite self-defense.

These 2nd amendment d-bags who carry around guns in their pockets wherever they go and are quick to pull them out need to be aware of this story.

Agreed. His Facebook profiles (he has two of them and both of them make him look like a nutjob - big surprise there) show him holding guns.

Just because you’re a gun lover doesn’t mean you can take it out and annihilate someone just because they got into a minor scuffling

Dayum, they shot 62x at a target standing in the open and hit him 11x? What's the requirement and training for being a cop these days? Did they all forget their glasses?

Boulder Pearl St murder in 2017 wrote:

I think it must have gone down something like this:

Victim: oh hey ho we are having whisky at this upscale Pearl st place. Hey therrr partner, you gots some good shootin in up in Ned today, huh?

Suspect: [chugs down whisky] F you dude. You don't know how to fire a rifle like a real man. I goin on an expedition in Monticello UT a few hours south of Moab so I know what the F I'm talkin' about.

Victim: entitled millennial. Whatever a-hole, just tryin' a help u out

Suspect: get of my face dude. I'm warnin u. I ain't signed up no BolderBoulder. Sh*t race starts in 5 hours

Victim: why not run that race, you fat piece of ?!!!

Suspect: [bang bang ? ]

Victim: AHHHH!!! GOBBLE GOBBLE MUTHAF'ER!!!!!

fixed