Did Rojo's coaching ruin Sage

no sage was never a great runner in high school before indeed you could say he coached him well enough to get him into hansons which was a good achievement he also admits that he never got on with any of his coaches

Considering that sage is doing better than 99% of US distance runners I would say no.

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Sage messed up rojo's coaching.

15:17 5K xc HS PR isn't great huh? Please tell me how a 24:21 8k xc college PR is better?

OP doesn't need no stinking facts.

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Putting people down to make yourself feel better. It’s sad, and too common here. Are runners the most jealous small minded people in the world? There is nothing a runner hates more than other runners. There are far more threads bashing well known runners (see Rupp, Hasay, etc.) than giving them praise. Especially if they are American. If a runner is not well known and does well, then they will get a thread praising their achievement. But as soon a runner has any sort of endorsements/fame/succcess the hate just spews out.

I don’t even like Sage, but the guy comes on here and is honest about the choices he’s made and why he’s made them. He loves to run and wants to get paid to do it. Did he even need to say it? It’s oretty obvious why he made the choices he has and it has worked for him (in terms of being paid to run). That’s what he has achieved. But, as result of his success in achieving his goal to get paid to run he has become open season for the jealous and the weak. It’s pathetic.

Unless you're the #1 runner in the world in your given event you are open to criticism on this board.

She does

I was barely a sub 4:30 hs miler. I did run about 32:05 for 10km, 15:17 for 5km, and 8:46 for 3km in hs though. Always more competitive in cross country than track.

In Oregon large school division (same class as Galen Rupp in 2004) I never made states in track and was only 13th in cross country. Galen won state in just under 15:00 that year and I ran 15:48 for 13th place. It was a pretty tough year with guys like Galen and Ryan Vail and other footlocker finalists.

So Rojo really took a chance on me. We had much better guys at Cornell in that recruiting class (actual sub 4:15 milers and sub 9:20 2-milers).

Still, Rojo coached me to an Olympic Trials Qualifier in the marathon (2:21:43 back then), a Conference Title in the 10km (three sub 30-min 10km races for me in track), and qualifying as an individual for NCAAs in cross country. As a team we finished 2nd in conference my senior year and our track team consistently won conference...we had a fairly strong distance squad (for Ivy League standards).

You're really comparing 8km cross country PR times? I ran 24:41 at Van Cortlandt Park (full 5-mile course)...that was probably my best cross country performance. Sure, I split faster with sub 23:48 for 8km during a 10km on the track though and ran like 24:15 at Pre-Nats xc one year. In Oregon when I was in hs we ran super fast, flat courses sometimes. My "15:17 hs PR" was actually "converted" from a 15:07 timed race that we measured to only be 4910m.

Look up the results of the 2007 NCAA DI cross country meet...I was 83rd place (it was a decent race for me...not great...but not bad). We figured basically every single American guy that finished ahead of me was: 1. either a Footlocker Finalist and/or 2. ran a sub 9:20 two miler and/or sub 4:15 miler in hs.

I was actually really happy with how my college running turned out. Qualified for the Olympic Trials when I was 21. Won the 10km at Conference. Qualified for NCAAs in xc. Sure, I would've liked to have been "All American" as well, but given my "talent" level in hs I felt like I progressed pretty well under Rojo. A lot of my dreams actually did "become reality"

Rojo's coaching and guidance basically created my whole running career. I learned the value of chasing after longer distance events like the marathon...the pay offs of consistent high mileage training and "uptempo work".....and the business side of running. He was a very good coach and he really cared about our success as athletes and people. Sure, I argued with him about the specifics of some workouts and certain training structures...but he did let me run 2 marathons during my junior year (right after cross country and track seasons!). Because of Rojo I was able to continue on straight into Hansons after graduating and continue running as a sponsored athlete.

Delete this thread. It’s disgusting.

Why and how sage continues to indulge these inane and repugnantly insulting posts is beyond me. Unless ofc it was yet another troll post, then well done

I'm not a fan of rojo as an unabashed click-baiting typical "doesn't mind being an a$$ to get a rise out of people because of anybody actually examined my political views, it boils down that I'm just a jerk and let only fear dictate my politics." However, this thread is stupid and I suspect just designed to get Sage to reply. This would be like me posting a thread claiming Daniels doesn't work for anybody running a marathon under 2:45, trying to get a rise out of Smoove.

I think Sage has intentionally ruined a perfectly legit troll thread. Some people can't help but spread chaos around.

I think 100% Rojo ruined Sage.

I mean, ONLY a 2:16 marathon PR. Pffft. That's ruined.

Former Course Record holder at White River 50 miler. That's ruined.

1:04 half marathon? Ruined.

Ruined! He was never the same after he left Rojo....

Very confused wrote:

Why and how sage continues to indulge these inane and repugnantly insulting posts is beyond me. Unless ofc it was yet another troll post, then well done

It is also disguisting that threads like these don´t get deleted, but we all know that the brojos jizz in their pants over stuff like this. It attracts people to this messageboard.

But did Sage ruin rojo? Sage continues to run well, while rojo is out of the coaching ranks.

coachkiller wrote:

But did Sage ruin rojo? Sage continues to run well, while rojo is out of the coaching ranks.

Welp, that answers that one.

Sage "The Coach Killer" Canaday. :)

Who cares about an OTQ or a course record? Or even a sub 1:04 half?

Everybody knows that winning Pikes Peak, let alone twice, is as impressive as winning Chicago, Boston, another global marathon, and it's even close to as impressive as medaling the Olympics

That's the nicest thing I ever heard about my son. Thank you.