REAL TALK for those who thought Galen would beat Mo

Gary Lough outcoached Al Sal wrote:

I am not starting this thread to gloat about Mo's win over Rupp, since it was so obvious to anyone following the sport which of them would come out on top of the other.

What I want to understand is WHAT IS IT ABOUT RUPP that you thought would put him ahead of Farah in your mind? Not all of your a dummies so I am sure there is something to your prediction, even it it was incorrect.

Looks like Gary Lough is the better coach than Al!

Well, Mo does owe his career to Al. Al turned him into a world beater. So this is also a win for Al.

Gary Lough outcoached Al Sal wrote:

I am not starting this thread to gloat about Mo's win over Rupp, since it was so obvious to anyone following the sport which of them would come out on top of the other.

What I want to understand is WHAT IS IT ABOUT RUPP that you thought would put him ahead of Farah in your mind? Not all of your a dummies so I am sure there is something to your prediction, even it it was incorrect.

Looks like Gary Lough is the better coach than Al!

+1

Gary Lough outcoached Al Sal wrote:

I am not starting this thread to gloat about Mo's win over Rupp, since it was so obvious to anyone following the sport which of them would come out on top of the other.

What I want to understand is WHAT IS IT ABOUT RUPP that you thought would put him ahead of Farah in your mind? Not all of your a dummies so I am sure there is something to your prediction, even it it was incorrect.

Looks like Gary Lough is the better coach than Al!

Mohammed is also a better and faster runner

Scorpion_runner wrote:

Gary Lough outcoached Al Sal wrote:

I am not starting this thread to gloat about Mo's win over Rupp, since it was so obvious to anyone following the sport which of them would come out on top of the other.

What I want to understand is WHAT IS IT ABOUT RUPP that you thought would put him ahead of Farah in your mind? Not all of your a dummies so I am sure there is something to your prediction, even it it was incorrect.

Looks like Gary Lough is the better coach than Al!

Well, Mo does owe his career to Al. Al turned him into a world beater. So this is also a win for Al.

Crazy to think that Mo was a perennial bit part player at 5K for years, under one of the best coaches in the UK, until the age of 26 when he joined Al, and now at 35 he's a world beater in the Marathon at his third attempt at the distance.

Not sure why people are knocking Al Sal. Either it means that Al's vitamin c injections and the rest weren't as important as his actual world beating running coaching, or it means that Mo is getting something in East Africa that Galen just can't get.

Rupp ran a 26:44 and won an Olympic medal. It was not unreasonable to think he could be stronger than Mo in a marathon. Mo only beat Rupp by a couple of seconds in the 2012 10K.

They had nearly the same pr. Also, Rupp has more experience running more marathons and having run Chicago before.

This was a great run by both of them today. I thought 2:07 was gonna win the race in the conditions. They all ran great today. Kudos to them!!!

Ghgghg wrote:

They had nearly the same pr. Also, Rupp has more experience running more marathons and having run Chicago before.

This was a great run by both of them today. I thought 2:07 was gonna win the race in the conditions. They all ran great today. Kudos to them!!!

Absolutely and, as anyone in the sport knows, on any given day, this race can be re-run and Rupp can come out on top.

The beauty of the sport is that Mo won today and now we move on to another day.

+1

I was one of those who thought Rupp had a chance against Farah. Experience was one reason for this, familiarity with the course was another. But really, given everything I've seen of the two runners so far, it was about stride. Farah strikes the ground hard when he runs; it's part of what made him so good on the track. Rupp is bigger than Farah, but his stride is smoother and seemingly more amenable to the wear and tear of the marathon.

SDSU Aztec wrote:

Rupp ran a 26:44 and won an Olympic medal. It was not unreasonable to think he could be stronger than Mo in a marathon. Mo only beat Rupp by a couple of seconds in the 2012 10K.

Why do you insist on posting inaccuracies like this? Did you even watch the 2012 Olympic 10000m? Mo has always been superior to Galen BUT you need to educate yourself.

Reith wrote:

SDSU Aztec wrote:

Rupp ran a 26:44 and won an Olympic medal. It was not unreasonable to think he could be stronger than Mo in a marathon. Mo only beat Rupp by a couple of seconds in the 2012 10K.

Why do you insist on posting inaccuracies like this? Did you even watch the 2012 Olympic 10000m? Mo has always been superior to Galen BUT you need to educate yourself.

What inaccuracies? Rupp did run 26:44 and Mo only beat him by .5 seconds (not a couple) in the 2012 10K. Was Mo so much better than Rupp on the track that there is no way that Rupp could make up ground in the marathon?

SDSU Aztec wrote:

Reith wrote:

Why do you insist on posting inaccuracies like this? Did you even watch the 2012 Olympic 10000m? Mo has always been superior to Galen BUT you need to educate yourself.

What inaccuracies? Rupp did run 26:44 and Mo only beat him by .5 seconds (not a couple) in the 2012 10K. Was Mo so much better than Rupp on the track that there is no way that Rupp could make up ground in the marathon?

You ask what inaccuracies and then proceed to correct your inaccuracy. Bizarre.

Gary is better at PED use than Al sal.

Scorpion_runner wrote:

Well, Mo does owe his career to Al. Al turned him into a world beater. So this is also a win for Al.

No.

Farah has improved dramatically at the marathon since LEAVING Salazar.

SDSU Aztec wrote:

Rupp ran a 26:44 and won an Olympic medal. It was not unreasonable to think he could be stronger than Mo in a marathon. Mo only beat Rupp by a couple of seconds in the 2012 10K.

2012: Rupp sat on Farah for 24 out of 25 laps, and then Farah ran away from him and everyone else. Just because Rupp was in his slipstream does not mean Farah's ability that day was only "a couple of seconds" faster than Rupp. More like 20 seconds to have toyed with everyone like that.

26:44: If Farah had as many time-trial attempts as Rupp (including all of Rupp's DNS and DNF results), Farah would have run 26:3x multiple times.

runn wrote:

on any given day, this race can be re-run and Rupp can come out on top.

The beauty of the sport is that Mo won today and now we move on to another day.

No.

You act like it is a flip of a coin every time they race.

It is more like the roll of two dice, and Rupp needs a 2 or a 12 to win!

ruppmaster wrote:

I was one of those who thought Rupp had a chance against Farah. Experience was one reason for this, familiarity with the course was another. But really, given everything I've seen of the two runners so far, it was about stride. Farah strikes the ground hard when he runs; it's part of what made him so good on the track. Rupp is bigger than Farah, but his stride is smoother and seemingly more amenable to the wear and tear of the marathon.

These are fair points, experience and knowing the course.

About stride, by "more amenable" you must mean "slower."

ruppmaster wrote:

I was one of those who thought Rupp had a chance against Farah. Experience was one reason for this, familiarity with the course was another. But really, given everything I've seen of the two runners so far, it was about stride. Farah strikes the ground hard when he runs; it's part of what made him so good on the track. Rupp is bigger than Farah, but his stride is smoother and seemingly more amenable to the wear and tear of the marathon.

Probably the most over-stated considerations consistently advocated by runners ... marathon experience, having run the course before. So many had Rupp not running well in Old Trials because he had no experience, and Farah's first was still a 2:08. Others have fared well first few times at the marathon (Jones, Treacy). Stride too, running economy is what matters, and Farah hasn't posted his VO2 and velocity, so who knows.

Probably because before they moved up to the marathon Alberto Salazar said in interviews that he believed Galen would be better at the marathon.