I am incredibly excited to see Sage gun for this record. Seeing sage hunt down big goals is inspiring. Sometimes he's in over his head and his honesty and transparency is something I wish other pros emulated. I think he's actually very well suited for this record. Obviously any 100 miler has an element of luck but if Sage hits everything just right on the day I think he's got this one. I love how sage isn't afraid of letsrun haters or general keyboard warriors, I know he reads these boards so Sage go hunt this one down I think you're very well suited to run this record! I will definitely try to get down to phoenix to watch this one and support one of my OG running heroes.
dusty_xc wrote:
I am incredibly excited to see Sage gun for this record. Seeing sage hunt down big goals is inspiring. Sometimes he's in over his head and his honesty and transparency is something I wish other pros emulated. I think he's actually very well suited for this record. Obviously any 100 miler has an element of luck but if Sage hits everything just right on the day I think he's got this one. I love how sage isn't afraid of letsrun haters or general keyboard warriors, I know he reads these boards so Sage go hunt this one down I think you're very well suited to run this record! I will definitely try to get down to phoenix to watch this one and support one of my OG running heroes.
+1. Go get it, Sage
Phony bologne wrote:
This guy is annoying. Constantly chasing weak events and for fame. He isn't even competitive in terms of the top USA sub ultra and ultra guys anymore so now he moves to an obscure event to garner notoriety. Kinda like Camille "I make up my own injuries and diagnose myself" Herron. These are 2 clowns that are great social media wise but actually not good athletes. They simply search for the smallest pond to be the biggest fish at.
He absolutely is a good athlete. He’s just not in the top tier of the world’s best. And I’ll bet he’s better than you.
Go get it, Sage!
What version of the 100 record is he going after? In a super hero outfit? Joggling? Beer 100 mile?
I put a fat marker in my outlook calendar.
December 8th in Phoenix, where dreams will die.
https://www.aravaiparunning.com/desert-solstice/
Sage might have a chance but I don't think he will make it.
No doubt with Camille Herron. She will be out before the 14 hour mark for her 24 hour world record attempt.
I bet my whole baseball card collection on this!
Good Luck Sage!
Given his performance in the 100 miler distance this is a bit like me saying I'm training to run a sub 3 hour marathon when I haven't broken 4.
Knows his best days are behind him ... It’s an attempt to try and stay relevant in the sport. His stride and mechanics have deteriorated so much - i’d be shocked if he did anything noteworthy.
Hey man I know I'm not a super competitive marathon runner (although I did run 2:19:50 this year already...which so far is the 11th fastest time by an American in 2018...that will change after Chicago and CIM but that is a current fact) so I "moved up" in distance. I was too slow to race competitively on the track after college. I have nothing to hide and will be honest with you. Don't say I "duck competition" though...if that was the case why would I still enter marathon majors and try to even qualify for the US Olympic Trials Marathon? Even in the realm of "MUT" (mountain-ultra-trail) I try to pick the most competitive events against the best guys in this "niche" of running. 100-miles will be tough...there is no way around that. The pace is 6:52 per mile (basically Four consecutive 3:00 marathons almost). I could epically fail and not come close...I will for sure try to finish 100-miles though. Guys like Don Ritchie (who only had a 2:19:xx marathon PB and ran 11:30 for 100-miles) inspire me and give me hope though. Could this be a good "career move?" You bet! Does it gain me a lot of social media followers?...Yep! I have nothing to hide here.
Phony bologne wrote:
This guy is annoying. Constantly chasing weak events and for fame. He isn't even competitive in terms of the top USA sub ultra and ultra guys anymore so now he moves to an obscure event to garner notoriety. Kinda like Camille "I make up my own injuries and diagnose myself" Herron. These are 2 clowns that are great social media wise but actually not good athletes. They simply search for the smallest pond to be the biggest fish at.
Phony bologne wrote:
This guy is annoying. Constantly chasing weak events and for fame. He isn't even competitive in terms of the top USA sub ultra and ultra guys anymore so now he moves to an obscure event to garner notoriety. Kinda like Camille "I make up my own injuries and diagnose myself" Herron. These are 2 clowns that are great social media wise but actually not good athletes. They simply search for the smallest pond to be the biggest fish at.
And Rupp gets bashed for being the opposite. Letsrunners are idiots.
S. Canaday wrote:
Hey man I know I'm not a super competitive marathon runner (although I did run 2:19:50 this year already...which so far is the 11th fastest time by an American in 2018...that will change after Chicago and CIM but that is a current fact)
so I "moved up" in distance. I was too slow to race competitively on the track after college. I have nothing to hide and will be honest with you.
Don't say I "duck competition" though...if that was the case why would I still enter marathon majors and try to even qualify for the US Olympic Trials Marathon? Even in the realm of "MUT" (mountain-ultra-trail) I try to pick the most competitive events against the best guys in this "niche" of running.
100-miles will be tough...there is no way around that. The pace is 6:52 per mile (basically Four consecutive 3:00 marathons almost). I could epically fail and not come close...I will for sure try to finish 100-miles though. Guys like Don Ritchie (who only had a 2:19:xx marathon PB and ran 11:30 for 100-miles) inspire me and give me hope though.
Could this be a good "career move?" You bet! Does it gain me a lot of social media followers?...Yep! I have nothing to hide here.
Phony bologne wrote:
This guy is annoying. Constantly chasing weak events and for fame. He isn't even competitive in terms of the top USA sub ultra and ultra guys anymore so now he moves to an obscure event to garner notoriety. Kinda like Camille "I make up my own injuries and diagnose myself" Herron. These are 2 clowns that are great social media wise but actually not good athletes. They simply search for the smallest pond to be the biggest fish at.
As a non-fan of Sage (but not a hater either, I just don't care), I've got to say he is right in this one. He never claims to be better than our equal to our current crop of elite road or track runners. In fact, he has made multiple posts on this site recently saying that clearly. So dont use that to criticize him when it isnt true.
It sounds like your issue with him is that he is a sub elite runner who runs sub elite races, which makes him look good. Then he goes and blogs about his running lifestyle, a bunch of hobby joggers go and watch his videos and sponsors therefore want to give him a bit of money to advertise for them.
A similar situation is happening in sailing. As a decent sailer, I sometimes find myself offended by all the hacks making youtube videos and begging for cash and people actually giving them money.
The difference is that sage is providing value to the people giving him money by providing them with exposure. Being elite or sub elite is irrelevant if he gives exposure to his sponsors.
If you arent interested in his videos, dont watch them. Dont like his blog posts? Then dont read them! I have only seen maybe two or three of his videos and didnt care to watch more. But I've never seem him misrepresent himself, so there is no reason to he up in arms. He seems to have found a niche in which to sell himself, so I say who cares?
Imagine if he was a former mediocre gymnast who discovered he could compete favorably at ribbon dancing. Do you think all the "traditional" dancers or gymnasts would suddenly be angry because he was ducking the competition by moving to a watered down version of their sport? My guess is that they wouldn't care.
Sage, taking the time to answer trolls is something that is unnecessary. I would ignore them. But, that you do take the time to answer them and do so in a self -effacing way? Top marks. You are a good sport.
Given your 100 mile record it’s nice to see you don’t give up and are going after what will be a difficult challenge. I wish you success.
asdfjlaskdfjalsdkfjsdl wrote:
Given his performance in the 100 miler distance this is a bit like me saying I'm training to run a sub 3 hour marathon when I haven't broken 4.
100 miler in the mountains vs 100 miler on the flat are like two different sport.
He's legit enough to give it a try.
Hey Sage, I was hoping to see you here on this topic. I enjoy your vlogs, but I've gotten the sense that you're burning out a bit after all the recent racing. Didn't you throw in an extra race after a disappointing result somewhere in there? The week off was probably a very good idea. I sensed that you might be losing a bit of your enthusiasm over the past year. Setting an audacious goal would definitely be a good way to combat any feelings of staleness/burnout. Make it happen! Looking forward to following your progress.
A good rule of thumb is to take current marathon ability and times it by 5 for road or track 100's. Obviously this will vary based on the strengths/weaknesses of the individual runner, but I've found this to get pretty close for most athletes.
If Sage is in 2:20 fitness, I could see him running 11:40, off the record by 12 minutes. If he takes well to the flat 100 distance, he could certainly break the record.
I would be honored to go for coffee with you Sage. You will be the Bekele of letsrun. I like to be friends with wr holders. I like to dream of myself sitting in Starbucks, Bekele to the left, you to the right.
Who's Courtney? Haven't seen her face the big fish at Comrades.
Just for the Relevant wrote:
Knows his best days are behind him ... It’s an attempt to try and stay relevant in the sport. His stride and mechanics have deteriorated so much - i’d be shocked if he did anything noteworthy.
Like where are these thoughts coming from?
Aside from tough go's at 100 milers (11th @ Western after some nasty lows, pretty damn impressive) and UTMB not going as planned, he's still very much running well. Problem is, he's so transparent and this opens him up to nonsense. I don't agree with all of Sage's stances on topics, but he is great for the running community, and owns up very well to his stance in sport. I am a far cry from elite, but have found a lot of value in his blogs and rants. He found a niche at the cusp of social media branding, and nearly a decade since focusing on road marathons can still run times .01% of these boards will never fathom. Let the man live, and do his thing.