Saratoga girls and self acclaimed leader of it all Kelsey Chmile have not raced since their less than great debut at great meadow in Virginia in August. How come??? Either they have some hidden talent they’re keeping a secret until they can let loose or they suck and don’t want to embarrass themselves... what do you guys think
I heard they beat Shen is a dual meet just saying that doesn’t sound like sucking
Since when has beating Shenandoah of ny been any indicator of success??
They usually go down to Great American Festival In NC (last year they shouldn’t have) sucked hardcore.. this year there have been talk of Kelsey either training really hard in Tuohy form or injured m.. we’ll see.. rest of the team hard to tell
Top team at NXN calling in now
NO DEPTH NO DEPTH NO DEPTH
Literally have Kelsey and junior high girls and one senior . Sad
Saratoga girls peaked in 2004 now they are all drug addicts snorting b12 and vitamins and can’t seem to make it past November
You guys are so mean... yes they are on the decline but it’s not there fault they run 8000 miles a week
I think there hiding a talent or something. Unusual of the Kranick’s to not race their girls if they’re not confident in the win. Looking at the team I can see one freshman maybe being a new star after Chmiel. Maybe they don’t want their precious chmiel to be replaced with rising one...... an idea
I'm certainly no 'Toga defender and have done some posts critical of them in the past but they did have 7 girls under 21:00 at Great Meadow including Chimel under 17:00. That's not at all shabby. Now don't get me started on the fact that 3 of them at 8th graders and one is a 9th grader.....
They generally do 2 invitationals only. It looks like in 2018 those will be a Great Meadows & Great American. It will be interesting to see how they do at Great American. Chmiel, Kurto, and C. Knott aren’t a bad top 3 and the Wheeler twins are 10:20 3k/117 SR at NXN so they could be decent this year or they could actually be better in 2019 when Kurto, the Wheelers, S. Knott, and E. Bush will all be back.
this is a perfect example of how teams constantly chasing nxn effects athletes development. If these kids were on normal teams they would actually race normal invites, learn how to race and enjoy the sport. Even if they didn't make nationals, they could develop and love for the sport, instead of just a love for making nationals. Now they spend so much of their year training -not even going to acknowledge the type of training. -to hope to get one good race, while they chase "tradition" or some adults goal. That's not fun for most young kids. Probably explains the retention rate of young elite athletes as they get to later years of hs. Not a lot of kids want to give up six months of their year for one weekend in portland.
I don't know if weather has entered into the equation for Saratoga Springs this season, as it has for lots of teams. Maybe cancelled meets, or at least one weekend's invitational's cancellation, helps to explain SS laying low.
For example, two big traditional invitationals, Oatlands and then Octoberfest in Virginia, were cancelled because of waterlogged courses. I think the venues cancelled in order to protect their properties from hoards of runners, spectators, and of course cars in grass and maybe gravel parking areas.
This weekend's Great American in NC should be a good barometer for SS's health, as it will be for many other teams from the region whose racing has been curtailed by the effects of weather. The recent Hurricane Florence's impact on Cary, NC isn't a show-stopper, apparently.
Their schedule online shows 3 invites and 5 weekday league meets, plus their conference meet and state qualifying series.
That doesn't look like a team that's not racing, more like one that trying not to over race by stacking invites on top of weekday meets.
Watched them train at the State Park for the better part of the summer. Chmiel is in great shape, and they’re clearly trying not to overrace any of the girls, but especially Chmiel, as she will absolutely be running in the post-season. The obsession here with Saratoga is baffling - there’s nothing magical or sinister about them. They work extremely hard and take running extremely seriously.
Without their #1 and 4 @ SPA Park
1.)92:51.8 Saratoga
1 17:40.2 Ella Kurto
2 18:35.6 Ciara Knott
3 18:36.9 Emily Bush
4 18:59.2 Sophie Tesla
5 18:59.9 McKinley Wheeler
6 (19:02.2) Megan Morin
7 (19:24.4) Hunter vonAhn
Update from Section 2 wrote:
Without their #1 and 4 @ SPA Park
1.)92:51.8 Saratoga
1 17:40.2 Ella Kurto
2 18:35.6 Ciara Knott
3 18:36.9 Emily Bush
4 18:59.2 Sophie Tesla
5 18:59.9 McKinley Wheeler
6 (19:02.2) Megan Morin
7 (19:24.4) Hunter vonAhn
Kurto down to 17:40 actually gives them a really good 1-2 punch. The Wheeler twins seem to be racing a bit off of their potential. Emily Bush is a 7th (?) grader, could drop some more time. Her mother, Dana Bush, is/was also a quite good runner. NXN NY should be interesting with Liverpool, FM, and Saratoga maybe getting an at large.
And all the haters saying they run crazy mileage... Not actually that accurate. I'm quite sure Great Oak girls run more, and they don't have this constantly brought up. Chmiel probably runs a fair amount, but the younger girls definitely don't go over 50 based on what I've heard.
Wow. Toga had 10 of the top 12 against a tough field - without Chemiel. FM Has no chance against them.
Peskypatrat3 wrote:
Saratoga girls and self acclaimed leader of it all Kelsey Chmile have not raced since their less than great debut at great meadow in Virginia in August. How come??? Either they have some hidden talent they’re keeping a secret until they can let loose or they suck and don’t want to embarrass themselves... what do you guys think
They have to be racing- you have to have 6 races before Sectionals to race in the Sectionals and States.
The only exception is with a Dr verifying that he/she treated you for an injury making it impossible to compete in 6 races.
I've even seen those turned down.