Windy day. Took lead at beginning and was outkicked st end by a 2:00 800 guy. Splits were 29, 31, 32 for a 1:32. Felt like first lap was really easy, then legs got a bit heavy from 400-500 and lack of oxygen kicked in after 500. Does this sound pretty good?
Yes, it's entirely appropriate that you ran a 1:32 and were outkicked by a 2 flat guy. That's what happens when you go out in 29 and positive split a 600. If the 400 is your strength like it is for me, are you like a 54-55 guy with a 2:10 PR? I was running 1:23 when I was a 50/1:58 guy while training solely for the 800 if that gives you any kind of useful information.
In 1970's, 600 yards was a once a year normal junior high and senior high physical education race. I know today many high school P.E. classes race 600m once a year. Was this 600m TT in P.E? In my experience, it was normal for 440 yard specialists to beat 880 yard specialists in 600 yard P.E. race. My observation: 800m specialists tend to beat 400m specialists in 600m. Losing to an 800m runner in 600m is no shame for a 400m specialist.
grain of salt wrote:
Yes, it's entirely appropriate that you ran a 1:32 and were outkicked by a 2 flat guy. That's what happens when you go out in 29 and positive split a 600. If the 400 is your strength like it is for me, are you like a 54-55 guy with a 2:10 PR? I was running 1:23 when I was a 50/1:58 guy while training solely for the 800 if that gives you any kind of useful information.
52.3 and 2:09 are prs. Only ran the 800 once though and it was not run efficiently at all. 62-67 with a 36 second last 200
400 guy wrote:
grain of salt wrote:
Yes, it's entirely appropriate that you ran a 1:32 and were outkicked by a 2 flat guy. That's what happens when you go out in 29 and positive split a 600. If the 400 is your strength like it is for me, are you like a 54-55 guy with a 2:10 PR? I was running 1:23 when I was a 50/1:58 guy while training solely for the 800 if that gives you any kind of useful information.
52.3 and 2:09 are prs. Only ran the 800 once though and it was not run efficiently at all. 62-67 with a 36 second last 200
Oh okay. Makes sense. I don't know if it's a 400 thing or not but my high school and all time PRs were both run negative split. 61-60 and 60-58. Give that a shot. I just wasn't made for positive splitting like some of the guys that kicked my butt in high school going 53-60 and leaving everyone to fight for 2nd place.
I would think with 52/2:09 PRs you could go faster than 1:32, but I don't really know. On my team we had a guy with PRs of 51 and 2:08 go 1:26 indoors, though tbf he went 49 and 2:04 that outdoor season. I was more of a distance guy, but I ran 1:27 with a 52 PR and 1:25 with a 51 PR (I also ran a 1:23 600 enroute to my 800 PR of 1:53, so I guess make of that what you will).
400 guy wrote:
grain of salt wrote:
Yes, it's entirely appropriate that you ran a 1:32 and were outkicked by a 2 flat guy. That's what happens when you go out in 29 and positive split a 600. If the 400 is your strength like it is for me, are you like a 54-55 guy with a 2:10 PR? I was running 1:23 when I was a 50/1:58 guy while training solely for the 800 if that gives you any kind of useful information.
52.3 and 2:09 are prs. Only ran the 800 once though and it was not run efficiently at all. 62-67 with a 36 second last 200
You should have gone out in 54/55, for a 1:25 finish
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