I was over in Spain for the WMA championships (1500)
The was a brit who ran sub 50 (400) and I overheard him mention he broke 50 back in 2000 and still doing it. He runs a blog and posts his training, schedule looks like he trains pro.
Is he a sponsored pro athlete still? how is it possible
Rick Beardsell? He doesn't have a blog that I can find. Link?
Never mind. It was Stewart Marshall. His "blog" is here.
https://master-athlete.com/blog/m35-400m-world-masters-athletics-champion-me-stewart-marshall/
IMO not quite professional level training, looks more like he has a job and fits the training in. He does a few two-a-days but he lifts a ton. Takes two days off. Not much volume either to the week or the workouts. Which in a way is pretty impressive for that reason. The guy is pretty bad ass. He also won worlds coming off a groin hernia.
He posts on here as AJ
fair play that's a solid athletic career. not pro think he just loves the sport
GB demolished the 400s in Malaga
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Is the linked blog the person referred to by the OP? Because running sub 50 in the 35 to 39 age category isnt something to get worked up about. WR is 44.5 for that age group:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_world_records_in_masters_athletics
In fact, the womens record for his category is almost as fast as he ran.
Sdfsdfsdfsdfsdfsdf wrote:
Is the linked blog the person referred to by the OP? Because running sub 50 in the 35 to 39 age category isnt something to get worked up about. WR is 44.5 for that age group:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_world_records_in_masters_athleticsIn fact, the womens record for his category is almost as fast as he ran.
I know, what a fraud. Just like that guy who won the Olympics 1500 in a time which is almost exactly the women's WR!
It's cool but not remarkable for his age.
m35 should be doing a lot better than sub 50 to be noteworthy. M40 goes sub 10 and sub-3:55.
And how close is everyone here to their age group records?
The sprints baring the odd few from elite ranks who manage to hold out obviously run fast times but on the whole no where near. and as asked, how close are you?
these are guys are moving!! I run 400, I am 26 and run 51.x I respect what these guys do hugely
Okokoko wrote:
Sdfsdfsdfsdfsdfsdf wrote:
Is the linked blog the person referred to by the OP? Because running sub 50 in the 35 to 39 age category isnt something to get worked up about. WR is 44.5 for that age group:
In fact, the womens record for his category is almost as fast as he ran.
I know, what a fraud. Just like that guy who won the Olympics 1500 in a time which is almost exactly the women's WR!
This is a fairly idiotic post. Unless anyone described the M35 WC as a "slow, tactical affair."
No tactics in the 400, genius.
WVN wrote:
His "blog" is here.
Why do you put "blog" in "quotes"?
Are you an "idiot"?
its hardly a "blog" that site
but the guy himself does say the site is a hobby. I never ran his speed when I was younger and sure as hell would break even attempting to sprint now!
oldfarstmakingnoise wrote:
And how close is everyone here to their age group records?
The sprints baring the odd few from elite ranks who manage to hold out obviously run fast times but on the whole no where near. and as asked, how close are you?
these are guys are moving!! I run 400, I am 26 and run 51.x I respect what these guys do hugely
Good strength as his 400 average is only 1.75 seconds slower than his 200 best. (22.93)*2+3.5
57.26 by a 71 year old had to be the bet overall performance at the championships in the 400's.
I'm still able to go sub 57 at age 50, but that wouldn't even get me to the final in the age group. Last place in the 50-54 400m was a 54.76 over 2 seconds behind the winner!
The World Championship Masters were insane. I mean really, really insane. M50, M55, M60, M65, all were doing some insane times, as well as the women.
In my mind, I started thinking the possibility of some of those runners doping being pretty high, but maybe they are just good at keeping their body in pristine shape. I know I take pride and put forth great effort in maintaining my body, but I doubt I will ever run faster than sub 17 ( even 18 might be my ceiling).
I part of an elite masters facebook group, and some of the workouts and race times that they post are just mind blowing. I'm talking 50 year olds running a sub 4:30 mile and 60 years olds running around 4:55. And 40 year olds close to sub 4.
note : when i say sub 17 or sub 18 I'm talking about 5000m
There is definitely doping going on at this level. Convicted steroid doper (served suspension) Val Bardwell won a gold in the M60 100m and a silver in the 200.
I was also Malaga , running the 800m, V35 what impressed me most was the 100m/200m over 65’s men running 12.4’s, over 60 women 28 ish for 200. Madness.
dunmol wrote:
I was also Malaga , running the 800m, V35 what impressed me most was the 100m/200m over 65’s men running 12.4’s, over 60 women 28 ish for 200. Madness.
Ben Johnson said not too long ago that he could run 11 seconds. And still trains for fun. Although he probably is banned, even for masters level, you have many former athletes that can achieve that times easily. The times are great, but extrapolated for amateurs.
Give 3 months of specific training to El Guerrouj, even if he's only doing treadmill, or easy runs just for fun (like he said) and he could win his age group 400/800/1500/5000/10000m
But they don't compete in World Masters for whatever reason. (Nothing to prove)