Bad sportsmanship to pretend your super tired at last lap and burst of speed with runner up?

That's called kicking.

For kicking, I feel like you’d have to dig deep, just like where pure hate comes from.

Soccer players and their training excludes distance runners and track and field runners from participating because it’s so specialized.

But we have the upper hand in endurance. No matter how glorified these players are, we do pure endurance training therefore we should own up to it.

I trained for marathons at 115 pounds and now I’m 155 pounds. Those rec league players won’t know what’s coming ?

If one is clearly the superior runner in a 5K or 10K road race, take the lead before the half way mark. There is no need to embarrass others.

Not gonna lie, the fact that you are sitting here planning something that lame out makes you seem like a pretty big loser

I did something like that in high school. My senior year I had bronchitis the whole season. A kid from another school ran away from me the last 220 of the mile at his school invite. The following week we were going to run against each other at my school invite.

The plan was to stay with him like I did the week before but I was going to start breathing hard the last lap and let him pull away some on the backstretch. Then I would stop breathing hard and blow by him the last 220. It must have worked because I beat him.

collegiate mode

3 minute 1-km

?

When I was in my 40's, the same 25 year old , sat on my shoulder from about the half way to about 3.05 miles, and then out kick me. Not cool. But not against any rules either.

Sand Dunes wrote:

That's called kicking.

Actually, it is called dribbling.

That's just stupid. But if you like those things, change sports and become a cyclist. Faking to be the weakest link of the group and then outsprinting everyone is considered normal among us.

ironside wrote:

If one is clearly the superior runner in a 5K or 10K road race, take the lead before the half way mark. There is no need to embarrass others.

Beating someone by 4 minutes isn't embarrassing them?

no, you are just a superior tactician

In the NEW America we no longer strive for the win, we strive for the completion. In a perfect race we are all winners so there is no reason to push the pace. The importance is in the comradery that you share with you fellow runners. We should also strive to raise money to help others. This competition stuff is so 20th century and we must strive to move forward in our social pursuits.

Good Luck and God Bless.

pond scum wrote:

pretend that you're tired and gasping for air, but

I've raced a guy several times over different distances who runs like this except that this is genuinely the way he runs (no feinting of faking about it). It's the ugliest running form I've ever seen with hands fighting the air each step and gasping for breath starting about a mile in. The first time it happened, I chuckled inside until he slowly and steadily broke free of me. The second time, I thought I would just stay with him, but he did it again! It can be quite demoralizing mid-race when you're dying inside and the other person runs away from you while appearing to be dying, but I also find it quite comical that somebody like that can beat me regularly. It gives me something to look forward to when (if?) I finally beat him.

Generally speaking though, I think it's more demoralizing if you fake being in shape (i.e. you're dying inside but outside you're breathing regularly) and then throw in a surge. If your goal is to win, I think that's the better approach to beat a competent opponent.

If you're in better shape, either run a time trial or make it a hard workout. Put yourself in an objective viewpoint and I think you'll realize you'll look like a chump if you do it your way. I guess it's really all about what your goal is. The 23 minute guy couldn't care less how you beat him, but he'll respect you more if you throw down a solid time than if you look like a chump.

EU cyclist wrote:

That's just stupid. But if you like those things, change sports and become a cyclist. Faking to be the weakest link of the group and then outsprinting everyone is considered normal among us.

I was going to say it sounds more like "sitting in" as a cyclist.

I realized your comment was really about soccer and not running, but the parable holds... you'll look more like a showboat than a chump in soccer, but within about 5 seconds the other team will realize you're faking it. At that point, you'll probably look like a chump, but soccer isn't really my forte. There seems to be alot of highlight reels where soccer players are clearly faking things like injuries and falls so maybe they will think you're Pele.

Randy Wholeway wrote:

ironside wrote:

If one is clearly the superior runner in a 5K or 10K road race, take the lead before the half way mark. There is no need to embarrass others.

Beating someone by 4 minutes isn't embarrassing them?

Scenario A. 15:xx 5K runner, race local 5K and wins in sub-16.

Scenario B. 15:xx 5K runner races 100m behind leaders until 800m to go. 15:xx 5K runner races last 800m sub-2:15 and wins by 10 metes.

In scenario A 15:xx runner just raced to his/her ability. Scenario B, said runner attempted to embarrass his/her fellow competitors.

If you end it with no celebration, then no problem. If you end it with an NFL post TD celebration(milinial pelvic thrusting), then yeah.

Yes tbh. Nothing wrong with a sit and kick. But if you are clearly supperior just run at your own pace, don't make a big deal about it.

I try to avoid competitions were I'm supperior. It's awkward and I don't see the point of racing if there is no competition.

2nd best runner 23 minutes? Are there races that slow today?

Not a single HS kid or halfway decent ex-college runner in the area?

That said. No, your suggestions sound stupid. Just go out and run a hard, but controlled effort for yourself. Why "toy" with the hobby jogger? That sounds childish.