Michael Johnson Stroke

ljkljlk wrote:

I always used to say, a sprinter that looks like he spends more time in the weight room than on the track is on steroids - MJ, Burrell, Johnson, Crawford, Gay, etc.

Take a look at Christian Coleman and his 15-year old girl arms and note the difference. Noah Lyles included. A minimal amoutn of muscle.

Sprinters DO spend more time in the weight room than on the track.

but they do... wrote:

ljkljlk wrote:

I always used to say, a sprinter that looks like he spends more time in the weight room than on the track is on steroids - MJ, Burrell, Johnson, Crawford, Gay, etc.

Take a look at Christian Coleman and his 15-year old girl arms and note the difference. Noah Lyles included. A minimal amoutn of muscle.

Sprinters DO spend more time in the weight room than on the track.

The thing was when Clyde Hart was asked about the secret to training 400m runners he would say train them almost like they were half milers. This would indicate a less muscle bound athlete but not MJ.

obviously not a dr wrote:

Ezekiel bread wrote:

Long-term effects of steroids.

A TIA is not uncommon with people his age and who have never been PED users

NOTE: he said nothing about race.

Note also that he said “not uncommon”, meaning “common”.

Numbers please.

Also, you can give numbers for 50-yr-old blacks to prove that it is common.

Plus, I’m not at all sure that I have any vitriol. I have always thought that the robotic personality-less wanna-be-something-other-than-a-dumb-jock was a pathetic loser.

Yes I know about his “business” ventures into agency. He proved utterly incapable of doing anything real.

No respect, at all. I remember him wanting to be an architect, a pathetic delusion—and I know a few architects who are morons. He couldn’t even manage that.

Because I have always found him a pathetic figure, I hope that he comes out of this as good as he ever was. I do not wish him badly, I have always felt sorry for him.

Sprintgeezer wrote:

Plus, I’m not at all sure that I have any vitriol. I have always thought that the robotic personality-less wanna-be-something-other-than-a-dumb-jock was a pathetic loser.

Yes I know about his “business” ventures into agency. He proved utterly incapable of doing anything real.

No respect, at all. I remember him wanting to be an architect, a pathetic delusion—and I know a few architects who are morons. He couldn’t even manage that.

Because I have always found him a pathetic figure, I hope that he comes out of this as good as he ever was. I do not wish him badly, I have always felt sorry for him.

yet he has 4 Olympic gold medals and accomplished his ultimate dream in life and well you...have nothing better to do than post about him on a random internet slum.

Sprintgeezer wrote:

Also, you can give numbers for 50-yr-old blacks to prove that it is common.

"not uncommon" does not mean "common" boob.

A 50 yr old black male suffering a TIA would not be statistically unusual within the scope of the happenstance of TIA occurrence.

While looking up this stuff (which you're not supposed to be at risk for at 50) I found out the surgeons can actually cut open the artery and pull out the plaque! Like so

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/48/Carotid_Plaque.jpg

They say it works better than stenting. Which reminds me of my thread from years ago, asking why instead of stents or balloons, they don't just thread a little saw up there, or pipe cleaner, or some other device to actually remove the plaque without cutting open the artery. If they can risk cutting it from the outside, wouldn't it be safer to scrape it from the inside?

This is such an obvious solution to the whole problem of vascular disease that it's a wonder technology isn't hard at work coming up with better methods. Maybe nanobots could do it, or maybe there's a worm or other parasite that could be genetically modified to eat the stuff.

ure obviously not well read wrote:

Sprintgeezer wrote:

Also, you can give numbers for 50-yr-old blacks to prove that it is common.

"not uncommon" does not mean "common" boob.

A 50 yr old black male suffering a TIA would not be statistically unusual within the scope of the happenstance of TIA occurrence.

+1

That actually looks delicious.

Because when you jiggle that plaque around with a "pipe cleaner" or "remove it from the inside" or try and squish it with a balloon against the arterial walk, it potentially showers off clots to the brain- causing more strokes or even death. Stents are typically only used for redo operations in the neck where the plaque has reaccumulated, the patient has had radiation to the area (tissue heals poorly), or the plaque is extremely high in the neck so that it makes the open surgery extremely technically difficult. Stents are improving for what is called peripheral vascular disease. A very good thought by you, however. We do have "roto-rooter" type machines that we use on some plaques. That is typically utilized for leg arteries; and unfortunately, has a high restenosis rate.

Lastly, a Dacron patch is typically sewn over the carotid artery to further widen the area where the plaque was. Hope that answers some of your questions. One of our greatest vascular surgeons invented the Fogerty Catheter...and also invented the clutch for the Harley Davidson Motorcycle! Keep thinking outside yte box, dude...

Why are you asking for facts when you're the first one to doctor the facts in order to make them suit your needs. See your topic about Sus progression. Cherry picking athletes that have a "dubious" progression while going as far including people that have never tested to anything to make your list bulkier is probably the least scientific method possible

SESAP wrote:

Because when you jiggle that plaque around with a "pipe cleaner" or "remove it from the inside" or try and squish it with a balloon against the arterial walk, it potentially showers off clots to the brain- causing more strokes or even death.

I thought about that. Thus the idea of having nanobots or parasites do it, which presumably would go slowly and not break off big chunks.

First you could put a parasite on it to eat any clotted blood, and then gradually spray a degreaser on it to dissolve the fats. If there's more clotted blood under the fats, send in more parasites. Monitor the whole process with an arthroscopic camera.

Another way, if plagues are reversible as they say by HDL or whatever, would be to find a substance that works even better that can just erode them down to nothing. If you can make a cell phone with a tiny transmitter send and receive video to a faraway tower, it has to be possible.

like lasagna wrote:

Bad Wigins wrote:

While looking up this stuff (which you're not supposed to be at risk for at 50) I found out the surgeons can actually cut open the artery and pull out the plaque! Like so

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/48/Carotid_Plaque.jpg

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That actually looks delicious.

Not sure it look delicious but it definitely looks like food.

Ezekiel bread wrote:

Sprintgeezer wrote:

Not uncommon? Really? Numbers, please.

Ackbar, he’s a joke. Don’t forget EPO, btw.

I have wondered when these things would start happening, but overall it still seems like a crapshoot.

Don't forget that Paul Koech just died the other day. Doped up 90s athletes starting to drop like flies?

Not to mention Gerry Garcia.

Sprintgeezer wrote:

Plus, I’m not at all sure that I have any vitriol. I have always thought that the robotic personality-less wanna-be-something-other-than-a-dumb-jock was a pathetic loser.

Yes I know about his “business” ventures into agency. He proved utterly incapable of doing anything real.

No respect, at all. I remember him wanting to be an architect, a pathetic delusion—and I know a few architects who are morons. He couldn’t even manage that.

Because I have always found him a pathetic figure, I hope that he comes out of this as good as he ever was. I do not wish him badly, I have always felt sorry for him.

Your mom feels sorry for you.

MJs kids, family & friends wish badly for you.

Certainly, your douchiness is the reason your mom feels sorry for you.

Can't blame her though.....She still has to justify to your daddy why she shouldn't have aborted you and now she has to go argue with him again.

C'mon, man. That's not needed.

ummm ah wrote:

Sprintgeezer wrote:

Plus, I’m not at all sure that I have any vitriol. I have always thought that the robotic personality-less wanna-be-something-other-than-a-dumb-jock was a pathetic loser.

Yes I know about his “business” ventures into agency. He proved utterly incapable of doing anything real.

No respect, at all. I remember him wanting to be an architect, a pathetic delusion—and I know a few architects who are morons. He couldn’t even manage that.

Because I have always found him a pathetic figure, I hope that he comes out of this as good as he ever was. I do not wish him badly, I have always felt sorry for him.

yet he has 4 Olympic gold medals and accomplished his ultimate dream in life and well you...have nothing better to do than post about him on a random internet slum.

But did he accomplish his ultimate dream in life, 4 Olympic gold medals, honestly? And in general, I do have some sympathy for a lot of professional athletes at the end of their often very short careers - what do they do with the rest of their lives that measures up and makes them fulfilled? They don’t all go on to be a successful as Bruce Jenner.

This Dr is in the house!! wrote:

MurderDub wrote:

I didn't say it was "not uncommon" so I'll decline your demand for stats. I said that he may be genetically predisposed. My dad started to have these around the same age. No drugs, no alcohol-- in his case, a birth defect was to blame.

African Americans are predisposed to heart disease, this is a fact that cannit be disputed.

https://www.webmd.com/heart-disease/features/why-african-americans-greater-risk-heart-disease

This thread is racist. Cease and desist.

Subway Surfers wrote:

like lasagna wrote:

That actually looks delicious.

Not sure it look delicious but it definitely looks like food.