Big Rock Candy Mountain wrote:
Brojos, these are the numbers you have for Ben "The Hobo" Blankenship:
Ben Blankenship low: $50,000 high: $70,000 agent avg: $56,000 LRC readers: $65,000
I'm pretty sure that Nike got Ben for a rubber poncho and a can of beans. Maybe they throw in a harmonica if he makes an Olympic or World Championships final.
https://www.twincities.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/ben-blankenship-cropped.jpg?w=450
This made me laugh out loud
These are base salaries. I wish you guys would have spent some time talking about bonuses and penalties
money trail wrote:
fixed and rigged, i tell ya wrote:
So Shalane parlayed her so-called "resilient" victory in NYC into $200K (for just one race)...
Anyone still think there wouldn't be a significant incentive to "fund" this ahead of time?
Yes, with such pricey shoe incentives to (mostly white) USA runners, it makes you wonder how anyone can think the playing field is "level", especially with Africans chronically poor (paying off doping inspectors for instance).
Been this way for a long time. Even worse in cycling, where stage wins were negotiated on the fly with however many miles to go.
Back in the 1800s, it was the same with rowing. When there's enough money in it, the fix will be in.
I have no interest in this thread, other than it would be interesting to know what Alexi Pappas makes off her Champion contract and how much her bravies spend for her autographed posters.
S.O.W.P. ( Supporting Our Wonderful President)
one point I learned from reading this thread was that marathons pay top runners an appearance fee to attend their race. I kind of thought that might be the case but it was nice to have it confirmed.
we must assume that the appearance fee is to:
a. encourage other top stars to the race so they can get some appearance money, too
b. encourage attendance by sub-elites and serious athletes who want to compete against the top stars
c. encourage attendance by less serious athletes who enjoy the kudos of having run with the top stars
d. encourage media interest, tv rights, newspaper articles all of which is free advertising.
e. all of hte above increase revenue for the race, which is what counts, right?
which leads to one pretty obvious question:
1. why are the elite fields for major races hidden behind media access until a few days before the race? if you want to know the elite field for Chicago, for example, you have to have media accreditation. for the Berlin marathon you have to trawl through six-months of press releases to figure out who's running (Eliud Kipchoge and Tirunesh Dibaba); look at the website for virtually any top marathon or major road race and you will struggle to find a link to "elite field" until something like three days before the race. this means they both want to brag about the elites running in their race while keeping the names of said elites a virtual secret.
is there an obvious answer I'm missing here?
cheers.
Alexa Efraimson, $166K. she should be arrested for stealing and fraud!
WhyNoFacts? wrote:
..... Where are the facts? Try harder next time please. If I was a teacher and this was your mid-term project, I'd give you a "B-".
Exactly. But a B- is very generous. If it was a Journalism class it would be an D- or F. At least they had someone else make up the numbers instead of themselves.
If this were an English class you'd earn an D- for grammar.
Professor A wrote:
If this were an English class you'd earn an D- for grammar.
You will be rewarded with a C- for pedagogy if you keep on brewing the morning coffee.
Thanks for the research, but this has to be taken with a grain of salt..I personally know of a couple of men's US elite (no Rupps ) marathoners who have similarly low~10-25k "base" salaries as listed here, but actually make 40-70k by the time you add in appearance fees, sponsor incentives, prize money, etc.
wejo wrote:
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We most definitely could not list what each agent guessed. You might be able to figure out who the agents were by what athletes some of them guessed on and left blank.
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And just like that you probably outed your anonymous source(s). One reason I would never talk to the LetsRun team anonymously. These teaser clues of your anonymous sources seem to consistently pop up in your message board responses.
snow blow wrote:
I'm shocked at how high the Boston Marathon appearance fees are. I figured most of the Africans would just get a few thousand. Not tens of thousands.
I would love to know appearance fees- I think they add a lot to the elite of the elite´s income.
I remember Guy Drut, French hurdler in the 76 Olympics, retired and came clean on how much amateurs were making.
He said a certain double,double gold distance runner would get 50K appearance fees from European track meets (in the 1970ś!).
Lolllll wrote:
Big Rock Candy Mountain wrote:
Brojos, these are the numbers you have for Ben "The Hobo" Blankenship:
Ben Blankenship low: $50,000 high: $70,000 agent avg: $56,000 LRC readers: $65,000
I'm pretty sure that Nike got Ben for a rubber poncho and a can of beans. Maybe they throw in a harmonica if he makes an Olympic or World Championships final.
https://www.twincities.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/ben-blankenship-cropped.jpg?w=450This made me laugh out loud
Why would anyone sponsor Ben? He doesn’t win anything and his miserable personality hardly warms him to the shoe-buying public. I can’t see him being worth a dime, frankly
It would have helped to know Shalane's yearly contract estimate to go along with her appearance fee(s). Is there a "full picture" estimate for any of the marathoners? It was noted that more $$ is in the marathon, but all I can locate in this study is an athlete's base salary OR a single appearance fee - not both for some reason.
Wonder what Suzi F Hamilton’s income was?
Vegas guy wrote:
Wonder what Suzi F Hamilton’s income was?
for the thrill of the game
I would have liked to see more of the younger pros like Engels, Hasay, Roesler, Prandini. Also, I’m surprised how high the sprinters are...I know US sprinters fare better internationally than our mid and long distance runners, but hard to believe their results are selling a lot of shoes.
Historic Wayward Yield wrote:
. . . hard to believe their results are selling a lot of shoes.
It's hard to believe that a talking lizard sells a lot of insurance, too.
There's almost never a thread on shoe contacts in which a comment like this isn't made at least once. For the record, the impact of advertising spending is one of the easier things to measure with surveys and natural experiments. I promise you that all shoe companies have a clear sense of ROI on their sponsorships, and that they are very profitable.
Three takeaways:
1.The wide ranges of guesses show nobody knows anything.
2. Agents take 15% of athletes’ contracts? That’s stealing. From what I understand about the NBA, agents make a 4% commission on team contracts and 10% on endorsements.
3. Kinda messed up you’d publish that accusation about the USC coach based on one anonymous source.
One could make a compelling argument that agents have motivation to inflate the contract numbers.
