swerve wrote:
Well, the reality is... wrote:
Or, listen to the gun shots from Jamal's 9mm as they ring out in the direction of Andre... and then listen to CNN tell you it was the white cops fault.
Lmaooo this post just reeks of racism
In your pea-brain, it does. In reality, you're an obvious fool.
breit leit wrote:
Further, claiming that CNN "tell's you it's the white cops fault" when a black person shoots another black person is another very weak argument (straw man fallacy).
It's ironic that you won't note/debate the statistics.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/7441/7-statistics-you-need-know-about-black-black-crime-aaron-bandlerWhat a dumb thing to fight about wrote:
I find this whole thing very interesting/disturbing on two counts:
1) It's amazing how these big corporations can just manipulate our feelings & bank accounts. Within hours of Nike making this announcement you had people burning their Nike stuff which is wasteful and honestly just childish, at least donate your existing Nike stuff to people in need and don't buy anymore NIKE apparel from this point forward (if you're really serious about this ridiculous crusade). And possibly just as disturbing are these people on the other side of the aisle that are promising to spend hundreds of dollars buying Nike stuff for their families, themselves, friends,etc (not a wise personal financial move but great for Nike brand) in order to show support for Nike's decision. Over the past two years many of my coworkers, who were never 49er friends, spend $100.00+ buying these over priced Kapernick jerseys just to prove their support to some and piss of others.
2) It's disturbing how easy we can be at each others throats over something so meaningless. Nike comes out with some temporary campaign featuring a mediocre quarterback who kneels during a song that probably shouldn't (and hasn't been until relatively recently) song at a sporting event and everyone is ready to tear each other apart. Honestly, if our enemies want to undermine our democracy and our country all you have to do is turn us against each other apparently means you just need to spout out some kind of racial issue on social media and then step back and watch the chaos.
BINGO. I do slightly lean towards placing blame on the politician(s) *cough *cough who made this such a huge issue in the first place though...When we could focus on real policy issues. It's almost as if a certain person wants us divided... so that our enemies can undermine our democracy while we are all distracted....
Well, the reality is... wrote:
breit leit wrote:
Further, claiming that CNN "tell's you it's the white cops fault" when a black person shoots another black person is another very weak argument (straw man fallacy).
It's ironic that you won't note/debate the statistics.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/7441/7-statistics-you-need-know-about-black-black-crime-aaron-bandler
What is there to "debate" about the statistics?
webby wrote:
rojo wrote:
Good post. If I was the NFL, I'd be irate. They had finally gotten people to basically get over and forget about the controvesy when one of the big sponsors throws it in their face.
What makes you think that they almost got people to forget about it? Outside of the M.A.G.A. circles people are highly critical of the NFL's new policy of forbidding a short, silent and peaceful protest before games.
Expect plenty of kneeling, fining, lawsuits, and union complaints this season -- and much more mainstream spectator exodus than they got from the Papa John Fringe.
Fed Up:
I don't care if they're not cool, my kids are getting Skechers for back to school, I'm not shelling out $400 to take them to an NFL game, and I'm not giving to the charities the team and the players promote to "show how much they care about the community" until they get traded or don't make the roster.
Suck it Bob Kraft
breit leit wrote:
Well, the reality is... wrote:
It's ironic that you won't note/debate the statistics.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/7441/7-statistics-you-need-know-about-black-black-crime-aaron-bandlerWhat is there to "debate" about the statistics?
You're clever. Props.
The statistics are what they are. The point of many is, why the 'activism' of what amounts to 250 killings/year (and many justified in the court of law) and a large political/celebrity platform vs 6000+ killings/year with very little acknowledgement/activism from said politicians/celebrities
Again, what is 'injustice'?
"Should we not try to reduce diabetes ailments because cancer kills more people?"
Still waiting for the link to the CNN story blaming a white cop for Jamal shooting at Andre.
breit leit wrote:
"Should we not try to reduce diabetes ailments because cancer kills more people?"
Still waiting for the link to the CNN story blaming a white cop for Jamal shooting at Andre.
Keep waiting, just like I'll keep waiting on you to give me an explanation on why it is okay to mass-platform a very small injustice over a roughly 2000% statistically greater injustice.
There are certainly corrupt cops in our society, and any injustice must be dealt with accordingly. But, there is a larger problem, and the mass-denial of this problem is the point of many who are in disagreement with Nike/Kaep/BLM, etc.
Who are the snowflakes supposed to be again? People saying they're all on the Left but the Right sure does get triggered over some nonsense. It's an ad campaign people... get over it.
Anyway, I'd bet dollars to doughnuts that most of the people making these grand proclamations of "Never again!" will be wearing Nike within a few months (if they ever even stop) .
Aside from the pages of politics, I’m genuinely curious as to how Nike execs and Phil Knight would act if Bill Bowerman was still alive - being the one to actually hand-make the first pair of nikes, and Nike cofounder, and Army major in the 10th Mountain Div., w/ one silver star and four bronze - helping to negotiate German surrender in Italy
Well, the reality is... wrote:
breit leit wrote:
"Should we not try to reduce diabetes ailments because cancer kills more people?"
Still waiting for the link to the CNN story blaming a white cop for Jamal shooting at Andre.
Keep waiting, just like I'll keep waiting on you to give me an explanation on why it is okay to mass-platform a very small injustice over a roughly 2000% statistically greater injustice.
There are certainly corrupt cops in our society, and any injustice must be dealt with accordingly. But, there is a larger problem, and the mass-denial of this problem is the point of many who are in disagreement with Nike/Kaep/BLM, etc.
I don't subscribe to the notion that you shouldn't raise awareness to X if Y isn't fixed. I've told you that already, so you aren't waiting on me. That's why it is "okay". I see diabetes awareness as "okay" as well.
I also don't subscribe to the notion that there is a mass-denial of black on black crime.
Are you at least finally admitting that you made up a non-existent straw man as an attempt to bash CNN and BLM? Do you not see that as being a juvenile and weak way to try to make a point?
breit leit wrote:
Well, the reality is... wrote:
Keep waiting, just like I'll keep waiting on you to give me an explanation on why it is okay to mass-platform a very small injustice over a roughly 2000% statistically greater injustice.
There are certainly corrupt cops in our society, and any injustice must be dealt with accordingly. But, there is a larger problem, and the mass-denial of this problem is the point of many who are in disagreement with Nike/Kaep/BLM, etc.
I don't subscribe to the notion that you shouldn't raise awareness to X if Y isn't fixed. I've told you that already, so you aren't waiting on me. That's why it is "okay". I see diabetes awareness as "okay" as well.
I also don't subscribe to the notion that there is a mass-denial of black on black crime.
Are you at least finally admitting that you made up a non-existent straw man as an attempt to bash CNN and BLM? Do you not see that as being a juvenile and weak way to try to make a point?
I engaged in hyperbole. So, is the point negated that there is a larger problem within the black community? My number of 2000%, is actually low. After investigative clearings and trial dismissals/not guilty findings, the number can reach somewhere around 4000%. But, keep reaching for anything you can. I engaged in hyperbole.
You're free to believe and subscribe to whatever you want. We all have our opinions.
When did I "bash BLM"? Are you engaging in hyperbole?
Well, the reality is... wrote:
breit leit wrote:
What is there to "debate" about the statistics?
You're clever. Props.
The statistics are what they are. The point of many is, why the 'activism' of what amounts to 250 killings/year (and many justified in the court of law) and a large political/celebrity platform vs 6000+ killings/year with very little acknowledgement/activism from said politicians/celebrities
Again, what is 'injustice'?
In this case justice and injustice originally refer to the treatment of the alleged crimes within the US justice system, not the treatment of alleged crimes on in the media. The injustice is the differential treatment applied to the perpetrators of said crimes in these instances, in particular, the lack of punishment for unlawful use of force as well as the disproportionate response based on the color of the alleged perpetrators skin color. The criminals in the "6000+ killings/year" were all appropriately dealt with and the victims received as much justice as provided under the law.
What's at issue here is the 14th amendment of the constitution. I'm not a constitutional lawyer so I'm sure more experienced experts can disagree with the interpretation of the amendment, but regardless the degree of justice/injustice has nothing to do with any acknowledgement or activism shown in the media. That is simply an aftereffect.
Beto O´Rourke wrote:
I have the answer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAw9eXXVwfM
He spent the majority of his answer talking about things that happened 50 years ago. Then at the end, he tacked on that kneeling is to bring awareness to the problem of police brutality, and point out that we should fix it.
Great, do you have any suggestions for how to fix it? Every time I ask this question on these boards, no one ever suggests any solution that is not already in place. They just say I'm blind because I don't bow to the assertion that there is "systemic racism."
heyyo wrote:
Well, the reality is... wrote:
You're clever. Props.
The statistics are what they are. The point of many is, why the 'activism' of what amounts to 250 killings/year (and many justified in the court of law) and a large political/celebrity platform vs 6000+ killings/year with very little acknowledgement/activism from said politicians/celebrities
Again, what is 'injustice'?
In this case justice and injustice originally refer to the treatment of the alleged crimes within the US justice system, not the treatment of alleged crimes on in the media. The injustice is the differential treatment applied to the perpetrators of said crimes in these instances, in particular, the lack of punishment for unlawful use of force as well as the disproportionate response based on the color of the alleged perpetrators skin color. The criminals in the "6000+ killings/year" were all appropriately dealt with and the victims received as much justice as provided under the law.
What's at issue here is the 14th amendment of the constitution. I'm not a constitutional lawyer so I'm sure more experienced experts can disagree with the interpretation of the amendment, but regardless the degree of justice/injustice has nothing to do with any acknowledgement or activism shown in the media. That is simply an aftereffect.
were all appropriately dealt with
Really?
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/06/us/chicago-weekend-shootings.htmlAre you engaging in hyperbole?
Read the headline caption above, now...
https://heavyeditorial.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/trinity-gay3.jpg?quality=65&strip=all&w=780
I'm really curious as to why there is not a massive 'activist' uprising against these continual issues?
longjack wrote:
just do it
https://globalpeaceandconflict.wordpress.com/2012/02/23/nike-and-modern-day-slavery/
First paragraph; "...unable to speak out without the risk of losing the only job you were able to get to survive."
Isn't it odd that the supposed "slaves" do not want to loose their job? If they were really slaves, they've be happy to be free of their job.
The truth is that while these workers face much more difficult conditions than we do in fully developed countries, it is inaccurate to call them slaves (unless they are forced under threat of violence to do work and not receive any compensation for it.) Using the "slave" terminology to refer to factory workers in developing countries is an insult to people who were actually slaves.
If the countries in which these factories reside want to allow collective bargaining or pass safety regulations, fine. But if we in the developed world think we should boycott the companies, the only result will be a diminished demand for labor, which will force these people out of the factory and back to whatever condition they came from that was actually worse than the factory job.
Well, the reality is... wrote:
breit leit wrote:
I don't subscribe to the notion that you shouldn't raise awareness to X if Y isn't fixed. I've told you that already, so you aren't waiting on me. That's why it is "okay". I see diabetes awareness as "okay" as well.
I also don't subscribe to the notion that there is a mass-denial of black on black crime.
Are you at least finally admitting that you made up a non-existent straw man as an attempt to bash CNN and BLM? Do you not see that as being a juvenile and weak way to try to make a point?
I engaged in hyperbole. So, is the point negated that there is a larger problem within the black community? My number of 2000%, is actually low. After investigative clearings and trial dismissals/not guilty findings, the number can reach somewhere around 4000%. But, keep reaching for anything you can. I engaged in hyperbole.
You're free to believe and subscribe to whatever you want. We all have our opinions.
When did I "bash BLM"? Are you engaging in hyperbole?
I inferred from your lashing out against those raising awareness of police mistreatment that you were lashing out against BLM as that is a cornerstone of their movement. If you are actually in support of them and wish to share that, then I apologize for what I thought was a sensible inference. If you believe that this inference is analogous to saying that CNN blames white cops for black on black crime, then you are just making yourself look uneducated.
"lashing out"
Nice try.
The Anti-anti-American wrote:
They deserve it for promoting that scumbag Kapernick.
You're right. The cowardice, the bowing to PC orthodoxy displayed by some of these big corporations is amazing.
It's also funny as Kaepernick started all of this simply because he pulled from his starter position, and was on the way to being cut. His handlers knew that if he pulled the race card as cover he'd continue to collect big paychecks.
Is there a rule against attaching a helium balloon to yourself while running a road race?
Am I living in the twilight zone? The Boston Marathon weather was terrible!
How rare is it to run a sub 5 minute mile AND bench press 225?
Move over Mark Coogan, Rojo and John Kellogg share their 3 favorite mile workouts
Mark Coogan says that if you could only do 3 workouts as a 1500m runner you should do these
Red Bull (who sponsors Mondo) calls Mondo the pole vaulting Usain Bolt. Is that a fair comparison?
