Ouma’s quote of the day is by far the best ever, hands down. The nonchalant slap across Centro’s face knocked him back to the Stone Age when he woke and read the quote.
“Anything shorter than that [3:32], you’re getting a repeat of Centrowitz winning with a pace slower than the physically challenged [in the] Paralympics. We don’t want to do that. So we agreed: it’s 3:32.”
Love it because it is true. But my fear is, in typical Kenyan fashion, he’s too trusting and open with outsiders. Can you imagine an Ethiopian coach giving a similar interview, spilling all secrets about his approach and methods to anyone foreign?
Seriously, national bias aside, that was the most disappointing final in the history of the Olympics. A peak Genzebe Dibaba would’ve medaled.
El Keniano, Coach Ouma knows his boys are super fast, a class above everybody else, and like to front run. What tactic can work against such runners if they run super fast? None. What Ouma shared is therefore not a secret but common sense tactic. Their opponents knows this too but hope they don't have enough sense to do that.
^ I think only King David Rudisha had the luxury of revealing his tactics to rivals beforehand. Anyone else trying that is setting themselves up to get shot at.
El Keniano wrote:
^ I think only King David Rudisha had the luxury of being able to reveal his tactics to rivals beforehand. Anyone else trying that is setting themselves up to get shot at.
^Edit.
sbeefyk2 wrote:
Ouma’s quote of the day is by far the best ever, hands down. The nonchalant slap across Centro’s face knocked him back to the Stone Age when he woke and read the quote.
“Anything shorter than that [3:32], you’re getting a repeat of Centrowitz winning with a pace slower than the physically challenged [in the] Paralympics. We don’t want to do that. So we agreed: it’s 3:32.”
While Ouma has a good point, I doubt Matt Centrowitz feels slighted. On the day of the race, he ran his smartest race and won. In the future things may be different, but Ouma's comment--while it does have merit--does not diminish the fact that M.C.'s tactics played out well. It will be very fun to see what happens in the 2019 and 2020 finals between Matt and the new Kenyans on the block.
El Keniano wrote:
^ I think only King David Rudisha had the luxury of revealing his tactics to rivals beforehand. Anyone else trying that is setting themselves up to get shot at.
To paraphrase Haile Gebresslie; my training is no secret. I run twice a day everyday(except on Christmas where he would only run once, another example of Malmo being right on doubles) with three fartlek runs a week.
another perspective wrote:
sbeefyk2 wrote:
Ouma’s quote of the day is by far the best ever, hands down. The nonchalant slap across Centro’s face knocked him back to the Stone Age when he woke and read the quote.
“Anything shorter than that [3:32], you’re getting a repeat of Centrowitz winning with a pace slower than the physically challenged [in the] Paralympics. We don’t want to do that. So we agreed: it’s 3:32.”
While Ouma has a good point, I doubt Matt Centrowitz feels slighted. On the day of the race, he ran his smartest race and won. In the future things may be different, but Ouma's comment--while it does have merit--does not diminish the fact that M.C.'s tactics played out well. It will be very fun to see what happens in the 2019 and 2020 finals between Matt and the new Kenyans on the block.
If Centro runs like he has over the past couple years, he will not even make the final.
El Keniano wrote:
Seriously, national bias aside, that was the most disappointing final in the history of the Olympics. A peak Genzebe Dibaba would’ve medaled.
No. Dibaba would not have been top 5 running only the last 400m fresh against them. Don't be silly.
El Keniano wrote:
^ I think only King David Rudisha had the luxury of revealing his tactics to rivals beforehand. Anyone else trying that is setting themselves up to get shot at.
Kipchoge at about 15 miles into the Olympic Marathon comes to mind. He surged a bit, to get first to the bottle stand, turned his head and told the others struggling "don't worry guys, I'm not leaving you behind yet". :-)
sbeefyk2 wrote:
Ouma’s quote of the day is by far the best ever, hands down. The nonchalant slap across Centro’s face knocked him back to the Stone Age when he woke and read the quote.
“Anything shorter than that [3:32], you’re getting a repeat of Centrowitz winning with a pace slower than the physically challenged [in the] Paralympics. We don’t want to do that. So we agreed: it’s 3:32.”
Sounds a little whiny.
When you line up for a race, the object should be to cross the finish line first.
Centro did that.
Everyone else in the race, watching the race, thinking about the race, etc, that believes that there is something wrong with Centro's gold can suck it.
When Centro wakes up and sees the quote he can be happy he won the most memorable Olympic 1500 of all time judging by how everyone can't stop talking about it
El Keniano wrote:
A peak Genzebe Dibaba would’ve medaled.
Don't be an idiot.
El Keniano wrote:
Seriously, national bias aside, that was the most disappointing final in the history of the Olympics. A peak Genzebe Dibaba would’ve medaled.
Don't be silly. Centro had a 50.5 last 400, among the fastest ever final laps of any race 1500 and above. (2:59.5 at 1100). Centro ran the race that unfolded and none of the Kenyans had an answer nor the tactics to beat him.
El Keniano wrote:
Seriously, national bias aside, that was the most disappointing final in the history of the Olympics. A peak Genzebe Dibaba would’ve medaled.
Gezebe Dibaba would not have run sub 1:50, breaking the women's world record by a lot, for her last 800m, halfway through a 1500m race. I'm just gonna give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're not as stupid as you sound.
Yes, and Lance Armstrong is my new favorite person in the world.
What he really means is, "my athletes are better at time trialing, so we will run away from everybody early." This in turn makes the race very boring to watch. The wildest, craziest races come down to a kick, such as the 2016 Olympic 1500. In addition, doped to the gills athletes such as El G decided to limit competition in the last lap by taking it from 800m out. So the new dominant group fresh out of EPO riddled Kenya dominates the 1500m out of nowhere, doesn't do long runs, hammers short intervals 3x week, and doesn't even do warmup jogs because its too difficult mentally for their athletes. Wow
El Keniano wrote:
But my fear is, in typical Kenyan fashion, he’s too trusting and open with outsiders.
Seems like you're getting your excuses in early for when the inevitable doping bust happens. Not really a great show of confidence in your boys there.
trollism wrote:
El Keniano wrote:
But my fear is, in typical Kenyan fashion, he’s too trusting and open with outsiders.
Seems like you're getting your excuses in early for when the inevitable doping bust happens. Not really a great show of confidence in your boys there.
Tell me more what I'm thinking.