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  • overbearing parent possibly

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    5 years ago 08/15/2018 1:01pm EDT

    My daughter leaves for practice every morning on empty. She doesn’t eat or drink anything at all before she leaves. Just hops out of bed and goes. Stays up late and doesn’t eat that well. Pizza rolls are her favorite food! She’s a freshman and a pretty strong runner. Looks to be between 3-5th girl on team. That’s based on time trials they’ve done so far. About; of them. Doesn’t have a ton of experience and won’t listen to my nutrition advice. Is this common? To me they seem to be running a lot! More than she a used to for sure. I’m afraid she’s going to crash and burn. Is this common? They practice every day at 6 or 6:30 am until 8:30. She’s probably doing at least 30 miles per week. Any advice out there! Or should I just let her figure it out on her own?

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    Sand Dunes

    Member since 07/31/2018.

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    5 years ago 08/15/2018 1:04pm EDT
    re: overbearing parent possibly

    There's nothing wrong with that. Anyways:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WhDTS2AeLw

  • pond scum

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    5 years ago 08/15/2018 1:04pm EDT
    re: overbearing parent possibly
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpyRI1j9t6c

  • Overbearing parent possibly

    Anonymous Poster

    5 years ago 08/15/2018 1:29pm EDT
    re: pond scum

    Lol! There you have it! I’ll leave it alone. And I’m adding to my playlist

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    colder and wiser

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    5 years ago 08/15/2018 1:42pm EDT
    re: overbearing parent possibly

    Her weekly mileage is normal.

    6:30 AM practice is normal (in the south, at least).

    Staying up late and ignoring parental advice is also normal for teenagers, unfortunately.

    I think eating breakfast is important, but I'd only worry if she wasn't eating enough over the course of the day.

    Keep buying pizza rolls for her, and be glad she's found a healthy activity and a good group of friends for high school.

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    Joe Jackson

    Member since 01/30/2018.

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    5 years ago 08/15/2018 1:48pm EDT
    re: overbearing parent possibly

    If she isn't losing weight, she's eating enough. Some people are tolerant of eating before a run. I, on the other hand, am not. I have done many 12+ mile runs (up to 16 miles) first thing in the morning on a completely empty stomach (nothing in it but dinner from the night before). The body has quite a few easily accessed stored calories to use for this purpose (roughly 2000, or enough calories for me to run nearly 20 miles without needing additional nutrition). Unless she's complaining about heavy fatigue setting in during practice, I would not bother pushing on her to consume anything pre-practice.

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    nimblenw

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    5 years ago 08/15/2018 4:17pm EDT
    re: overbearing parent possibly

    Hydration and iron are probably areas to be concerned about. You might want to have her take a vitamin with iron supplement or eat steak a few times a week (but not with milk or any calcium product, which inhibit iron absorption). Anemia/low ferritin is a very common issue for many female runners and some males as well. Sadly, they don't realize they have a problem until their times and energy drop off to the point that they go to a doctor and get tested. Then it takes 1-2 months on iron supplements to get their red blood cell count up again.

    If her coaches haven't already talked about anemia as part of their preseason training, you might have her read this.

    http://crosscountry.ahsdistance.org/handouts/Iron%20Depletion.pdf

  • pond scum

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    5 years ago 08/15/2018 6:59pm EDT
    re: overbearing parent possibly

    To be honest, who cares if she's running on empty.

    As someone else mentioned in the thread - make sure she's hydrated.

    I just came back from being active in the sun for 2 hours. Nothing is more intense than struggling from heat exhaustion / heat stroke. I only ran 7 miles, and took lots of breaks. But if you try running after only drinking 1 Poland Spring water bottle, you're gonna collapse.

    I was so desperate and thirsty that I was gonna get a beer and then chug it after I got away from the store - IN PUBLIC.

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