The state of Colorado and post-college XC

You'd think so. And there have been attempts to create a series some years but you need some enthusiasm and few people to make it happen.

I'll plan it out.

Give me the details, what kind of XC race would you like to see? If I get a good response here I can put on 3 races between OCT and DEC in Boulder county.

Prove to me there is interest and give me some ideas... I will put it on. What would you be willing to pay? What would you expect from the event? What distances? 4K? 10K? both? 4K? 8K? 12K? Hay? piles of Hay?

Lets hear it. wrote:

I'll plan it out.

Give me the details, what kind of XC race would you like to see? If I get a good response here I can put on 3 races between OCT and DEC in Boulder county.

Prove to me there is interest and give me some ideas... I will put it on. What would you be willing to pay? What would you expect from the event? What distances? 4K? 10K? both? 4K? 8K? 12K? Hay? piles of Hay?

I'd be in and would try to help you put it on. I think an 5K would be a good distance because then you could just use some of the local high school xc courses. A lot of sub elite guys coach (or help out with) high school cross country in the fall. I think if you planned the races around some of the bigger high school meets you would get more people participating. A few races already do this and just have a citizens race before the high school races but it isn't advertised at all.

Lets hear it. wrote:

I'll plan it out.

Give me the details, what kind of XC race would you like to see? If I get a good response here I can put on 3 races between OCT and DEC in Boulder county.

Prove to me there is interest and give me some ideas... I will put it on. What would you be willing to pay? What would you expect from the event? What distances? 4K? 10K? both? 4K? 8K? 12K? Hay? piles of Hay?

A true battle between participants representing Colorado Springs Track Club Elite, Boulder Track Club Elite, Tinman Elite, Old Zealand, etc., $20, enough prize money (or hype idk) for the winning time to be around 25 minutes in an 8K or equivalent, preferably 10K for distance, piles of hay. Maybe use Boston's Mayor's Cup as an example?

Because I hate both Boulder and Colorado Springs-and would never travel to either of those sh!tholes to race.

doge of colorado springs wrote:

One would think that with the fair amount of fast people living in the state of Colorado, there would be some sort of competitive, sub-elite XC circuit like you see in parts of the northwest, California, or northeast. Yet, such a circuit doesn't seem to exist. Why is this?

Train high, race low. Pretty simple to me. You don't see anyone in the NCAA (even in-state schools) choosing to race seriously in CO.

All that to say, I think it's a great idea. Denver area continues to grow and I can only assume there are more and more fit, capable post-NCAA athletes in the state.

There have been a couple different attempts to do this kind of thing in the past decade. USATF CO is historically one of the worse associations for supporting post-collegiate racing. Plus even CU stopped racing in CO. It can be done, bring back the Shootout, have races in CS, Denver area, Ft Collins. Piggyback on existing high school and college meets. Or just start with a few Denver metro races and grow from there. If you include races timed to be tune-up races for Club Cross and USA XC, you can get some of the better runners showing up with a modicum of prize purse. There's an open xc race at a middle school in Boulder in early November but it doesn't look like much of a course plus the RD turns people off.

Boulder County? GTFO. Look, you probably mean well and all but the rest of CO can't stand Boulder and would prefer to not go spend our money in that rich, liberal playground. That's why we live in other places, we're not fooled into overpaying for housing just to chase the myth of what Boulder used to be last century. Times have changed, stop clinging to the distant past.

Last year the USATF-CO XC championship was the Saturday after Thanksgiving and only advertised until a week or two before the race. There are not many good races at all in Colorado in October and November besides some Turkey Trots. There is definitely a hole that needs to be filled by XC especially with a few teams interested in going to Club Nationals.

Nonsense, little Trumpnut. We are richer, smarter, faster, better looking, better at satisfying our women, and superior to you in every way.

piles of hay wrote:

Boulder County? GTFO. Look, you probably mean well and all but the rest of CO can't stand Boulder and would prefer to not go spend our money in that rich, liberal playground. That's why we live in other places, we're not fooled into overpaying for housing just to chase the myth of what Boulder used to be last century. Times have changed, stop clinging to the distant past.

Because most "pros" are afraid to race at altitude.

Looks like the USATF CO regional championship isn't on Thanksgiving like it was last year:

https://www.teamboco.com/colleen-de-reuck-xc-classic-1132018/

Hopefully it'll turn out to be a good race

6K for men? 4K for women? JFC, even D3 college kids race longer distances.