I filmed the West Chester Mile and flotrack issued a copyright claim on my video. I used none of their footage. I appealed the claim but they did not release the claim. Does anyone have any experience with this?
I filmed the West Chester Mile and flotrack issued a copyright claim on my video. I used none of their footage. I appealed the claim but they did not release the claim. Does anyone have any experience with this?
Take em to court for the good of mankind.
agreed. sanddunes is my favorite poster honestly
Sand Dunes wrote:
Take em to court for the good of mankind.
Although I agree with you it is easier said than done. Most likely Flotrack has deeper pockets to fend off most individuals.
Issue a copyright claim on their videos.
runningZebra wrote:
I filmed the West Chester Mile and flotrack issued a copyright claim on my video. I used none of their footage. I appealed the claim but they did not release the claim. Does anyone have any experience with this?
If they had broadcast rights, they are entitled to shut you down. But you know that.
Read the law wrote:
If they had broadcast rights, they are entitled to shut you down. But you know that.
That's not true. Sporting events in the US and the EU are not copyrightable. If the event is on private property the organizer can ask you to not film.
Ask David Bracetty. He shot video for his own projects, without permission, at meets in 2017.
The DMCA has no protections at all against false claims. You just have to rely on the host to pay attention and make the right judgement. Meanwhile, try uploading it elsewhere, there's plenty of other hosts to choose from.
Post a link here too so we can see the flotrack-free west chester mile and see that they made a false claim.
Here is the video in question. The portion of the video in question is 4:44 to 5:31. Since I appealed the video is still up and not monetized. Flotrack wants to monetize it and take the money.
why that specific segment, and not the whole video? Are they objecting to commercial use because of their own incidental appearance? That would be dubious too, but not a copyright issue in any case.
They provided no explanation so your guess is as good as mine. This makes me want to live stream at meets just out of spite.
Does anyone know if Flotrack pays meet directors to be there?
If you fight it...can you let us know how it turns out. Other folks can do the same thing...and know where they stand when a limp dick letter comes to them. As other folks said, what they are claiming is dubious. Also, it is you own property.
Honestly we don't really need Flotrack to watch races. This kind of thing scares them. Seriously scares them
Anyone with a phone or a good camera can do exactly what you/they do.
It would be cool if there was a crowd sourced page on youtbue of track races.
I seriously don't think they have a case.
I pay my yearly subscription and would therefore like even more meets to be covered. I don’t understand the 20 people on this site who want everything in life for free. Please find somebody willing to donate enough money so that you all can travel around the world streaming all meets for free for the rest of us. Otherwise, stop bashing them and doing things that put a drain in their resources because it ultimately impacts their content which impacts me.
Or...have locals and/or admin staff who are already at meets pull out their phones and cameras and self-stream it to a common site. No travelling the world...No hotels, airfare.
The people who were willing to donate enough money for them to travel around the world are VC's who will be looking to make money and are trying (and succeeding) to put everything behind a pay wall. Also, do you think FT has been as gracious with other people's content/IP?
HMMMM? wrote:
Or...have locals and/or admin staff who are already at meets pull out their phones and cameras and self-stream it to a common site. No travelling the world...No hotels, airfare.
The people who were willing to donate enough money for them to travel around the world are VC's who will be looking to make money and are trying (and succeeding) to put everything behind a pay wall. Also, do you think FT has been as gracious with other people's content/IP?
I hate that the VietCong are back in action. I knew Charlie was out there getting stronger. I just didn't think that they would come at us with private equity.
That aside, the value of a bunch of moms and shaky track volunteers posting crap to youtube is far less than the value of FTs content. FT should not worry about the amateur junk as competition.
Flotrack does not own a copyright to your video. They own a copyright claim to their videos. You could not copy their videos and upload them to youtube.
Take other sports, MLB has video of Barry Bonds record breaking homer up on youtube and its websites. There also are fan videos of it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KzHrSDaisY
Youtube eventually acknowledged fans could post their videos of NASCAR crashes that they filmed at races:
Now the mile race you went to could have something on their ticket that prevents you from filming but I bet MLB and NASCAR do as well and the videos by fans were allowed so it's not so clear cut and this still would not be a copyright claim.
I'd appeal again with youtube, show them the links above and below, and contact the race directly.
This article is the most technical but shows whatever beef anyone may say they have with you is not a copyright claim