Outrageous Philosophy from High School Coach - Bonneville High School (Idaho Falls, ID)

Why is the weight/height ratio prioritized over speed for varsity selection?

Limes wrote:

Why is the weight/height ratio prioritized over speed for varsity selection?

It shouldn't, as there a bunch of naturally skinny toothpicks out there that have no fitness.

Why are people responding as if this was a real high school kid?

Trump2020OP-the real one... wrote:

Gerry Lindgren was coached by Tracy Walters in high school, where Walters was responsible for inspiring Gerry to the heights he reached.

Yes, we need to weed out all these young snowflakes wussies and find the next Gerry, Steve, and Haile here in America.

Gerry was a tail ending slug when he first tried out. He was way behind everyone.

You would have cut him from the team.

Hidden fences wrote:

Just Another Hobby Jogger wrote:

First, talk to the other 2-3 kids who take running seriously, and ask if they share the same frustration as you do. If they do, then go to your coach as a group and ask him to accommodate your needs as well as the needs of slower kids. Don't be confrontational in your demand. And don't show any disrespect to the slower kids. Just let the coach know that you and a few others will benefit more if you are assigned different workouts, because your current fitness level is too different from the majority of kids.

Why are people responding as if this was a real high school kid?

I am a real high school kid. At least I will be in 5 days.

Case closed.

https://www.localnews8.com/news/local-coaches-underfire-for-comments-online/779078901

itsover wrote:

Case closed.

https://www.localnews8.com/news/local-coaches-underfire-for-comments-online/779078901

Sad. This is varsity sports!!!!!!!!! Of course there is going to be "fat shaming." Just like if some 4' 10" kid said he wanted to be on the varsity basketball team, there would be "short shaming" and no one would say a thing.

Highschool wrote:

itsover wrote:

Case closed.

https://www.localnews8.com/news/local-coaches-underfire-for-comments-online/779078901

Sad. This is varsity sports!!!!!!!!! Of course there is going to be "fat shaming." Just like if some 4' 10" kid said he wanted to be on the varsity basketball team, there would be "short shaming" and no one would say a thing.

and you think that's the same thing?

Out of control wrote:

Highschool wrote:

Sad. This is varsity sports!!!!!!!!! Of course there is going to be "fat shaming." Just like if some 4' 10" kid said he wanted to be on the varsity basketball team, there would be "short shaming" and no one would say a thing.

and you think that's the same thing?

Yes , I do

Give these coaches a statue, for telling the truth!

It goes beyond "fat shaming" you moron. Have you ever heard of the female triad? Are you not smart enough to see the harm this type of communication and culture could cause to young people? Tired of knuckle dragging ignorant people like half the people who have commented on this thread. It appears the AD of the high school is just as stupid as most of the people on here.

Highschool wrote:

itsover wrote:

Case closed.

https://www.localnews8.com/news/local-coaches-underfire-for-comments-online/779078901

Sad. This is varsity sports!!!!!!!!! Of course there is going to be "fat shaming." Just like if some 4' 10" kid said he wanted to be on the varsity basketball team, there would be "short shaming" and no one would say a thing.

I've noticed that many on LRC just don't have enough real world experience to know that sometimes you need a sense of humor when approaching a wide variety of life situations. And by keeping a nuanced perspective when dealing with people you can avoid the good-intentioned , but often harmful results used in cookie-cutter approaches promoted by most psychologists.

For instance, there are times when police brutality is definetley called for. Saying you support police brutality, doesn't mean you support it in every instance. I for one believe it needs to be less demonized and promoted for instilling fear into various riff/raff that need a good baton whoopin.

In the case of yelling at kids, some kids best repond quite well to fear and humiliation. This is not to say it should be used in every instance, but at times the little bastards deserve a verbal assault. Most young Americans need a little dose of discipline in their snowflake lives. Just remember stick and stones... well I forgot how the rest went?

M.A.G.A...

Being born in 2003, I am a "young person." I see nothing wrong with it. If someone has a problem with it, they should not be welcome on the team and it will be better off without them. Maybe if my coach did this we could actually win some meets. An XC coach's job is to coach, not spend the whole season being someone's personal trainer so they can lose 25 pounds. If you just want to get in shape, you can do that on your own time. The real athletes have been "getting in shape" since May

itsover wrote:

Case closed.

https://www.localnews8.com/news/local-coaches-underfire-for-comments-online/779078901

???

Are you the coach at this high school, dealing with the kids he/she has? How do you know the coach's advice isn't exactly what these kids need to hear to get the best high school running experience possible? What makes you think you can judge how these kids should be coached? What gives you the right to sit behind your computer screen and judge what's best?

Telling fat kids that if they want to run fast, it would help to loose weight does NOT hurt them. It's just the truth, and it will allow them to deal with reality on realities terms. Lying to them would be more harmful. Of course, this truth could be delivered to the kids in a constructive way or a potentially harmful way. The fact that this coach allegedly has a password protected blog that states this truth, does not indicated whether he/she is telling this to kids in a constructive or harmful way. Jumping to the conclusion that this coach must be doing something wrong, IS IN ITSELF the more evil and destructive thing to do. Live and let live and keep your big nose out of it.

That said, I would guess that a large number of posters here ran at the HS and/or college level, and a lot of them do have experience coaching. The high school coaches I've talked to say that the #1 barrier to them being able to do a good job coaching, are the helicopter, over-bearing parents who can't let their precious little babies deal in the real world. So all the comments here that you think are so dreadful are EXACTLY the things young people need to hear and deal with so they can grow up to be productive happy adults. The very people you think are so awful, are the exact people trying to do what is best for the kids, but you wouldn't know it, because you just want to judge.

itsover wrote:

Case closed.

https://www.localnews8.com/news/local-coaches-underfire-for-comments-online/779078901

So the coach's bosses already knows about this blog and have talked to the coach about it. The boss decided it was just "some of the wording" that was taken the wrong way. Which indicates the AD knows the coach is a good coach.

Also notice that it was an angry parent who found the blog and started slandering the coach on facebook. How much you want to bet, it's the same parent who started this thread? They are convinced this coach needs to be fired, and so they're trying to use other web tools to start an outrage mob.

If my deductions are correct, here is my message is to the angry parent or to any other person in league with them; You aren't going to get anywhere on letsrun. People with experience in competitive running dominate this website. We understand exactly what the coach was trying to do, and we applaud it. You don't understand or appreciate the sport of running. We know you are full of it. Stop your silly campaign trying to ruin this coach's life. You are a truly bad person if that is your goal.

+1 Couldn't have said it better myself.

Actually the son, the real athletes were still competing in outdoor track in May and June.

If you aren't winning meets then your coach should learn to coach not to belittle you and create potential eating disorders.

Last I checked there is a serious obesity problem in this country. Fat shaming should be promoted to combat this epidemic afflicting the soft-minded, weak-willed, and lazy youth of America.

So, a small percentage of kids develop eating disorders. Just send them to the Karen Carpenter Center for Healthy Eating in beautiful Downey, CA.

M.A.G.A...