Outrageous Philosophy from High School Coach - Bonneville High School (Idaho Falls, ID)

Here's an idea ... wrote:

celery wrote:

Maybe this coach is trying to teach these dough boys and girls the harsh reality that you MUST develop some self control with food, or you will be overweight, miserable, and die sooner.

Someone needs to teach the coach that he's fired.

Ding, Ding, Ding. Here it is. Someone (probably the OP posting under another name) is trying to get this coach fired.

You are attempting to do a bad thing. Stop from your error, and get a life.

celery wrote:

Here's an idea ... wrote:

Someone needs to teach the coach that he's fired.

Ding, Ding, Ding. Here it is. Someone (probably the OP posting under another name) is trying to get this coach fired.

You are attempting to do a bad thing. Stop from your error, and get a life.

Cowardly really.

Ok making varsity due to grades and height/weight ratio is stupid. but the other points sound pretty good.

OP obviously is the parent of a fat kid who wants a participation ribbon.

Hounddogharrier wrote:

OP obviously is the parent of a fat kid who wants a participation ribbon.

Or the OP is the one with no food self control and is resentful that their child is learning how to have some self control.

Just when I think Letsrun message board cannot be bad, I read some of the responses.

I'm not really sure what you are upset about. Fat people really are slow at running. Anyone who has a chance to excel at anything has to meet specific requirements that are usually really hard to achieve.

It is a darn shame that playing T-ball at the YMCA where everyone is a wiener didn't teach you this.

Stupid people will not get into a good college and may end up digging ditches for a career. It's the truth and the truth sometimes hurts. Get used to it.

Welcome to the real world.

I wish my coach did this, and this is coming from a 14 year old. HS cross country in 2018 has been watered down to to 3 or 4 peole on each team who actually care and the rest are a bunch of out shape whiners in basketball ball shorts who smile for pictures at the end of races and goof off at practice. It's no wonder nobody out sport seriously anymore with all these people running XC to "get in shape"! Could you imagine someone going up to a football of basketball coach and saying they want join the varsity team to "get in shape." Of course not, because they would probably be laughed off the court/field or at the very least be cut after the first game. I'm so sick of XC coaches trying to push the sport as the "sport where no one gets cut." That is down right insulting to someone like me who grinds out 50 mile weeks durning the summer and has to do most of my running durning the school year after practice because my coach has to cater to the 25:00 ?minute 5k people. Some days I wish I could be a runner in 1975 when everyone seemed to actually care.

It looks like he literally deleted most of his website after reading the comments here. Now all it says is:

“Thanks for all of your support. Remember to encourage your athletes to get out and run, be active, and participate in something that brings them joy.”

^^^this is certified real news. XC being a "no cut sport" gives it no respect. Allowing kids to join after tryouts and being cut from other teams gives it no respect. If you can't do anything else in high school you can always join the XC team. Pathetic.

What a great coach.

I love his winning spirit.

Too bad the snowflakes can't handle the truth.

M.A.G.A.

On the other hand if you're not in the Top 7 for your team for the big meets, you just got CUT! Yes, you're still there and competing but you're not on the Varsity. On our team, which finished 4th in State, to letter you had to average better than the 7th place finisher on the other teams. I think my senior year we had about 14 or 15 guys letter because they would have been at least the 7th runner on the other teams.

Where's the lie?

Dude, it's HS, get a grip. This is not a professional league. If you love to run, take pride in that and take care of yourself, talk to your teammates about what you are trying to accomplish, some my find they like that and want to pursue it, others may just go through the motions. But, it is HS and that is OK.

Yes, but serious runners develop in HS. While it's not a professional league, the kid has a damn good point. XC/Distance runners got cracked on when I was in school, and that's a shame because running is a huge part of my life. The lack of strength and conditioning and the non athletes being catered to is a serious problem, and he's right, where does this happen in other sports? We're so damn PC anymore, it's frustrating. Hey, if a non athlete wants to come and work his butt off, accept his place on the team and shows up daily wanting to improve, that's what it's all about. Getting in your feelings because a coach calls it how it is, surely a way to rile up people in 2018, where everybody is wrong if they have a stance on an issue, and clearly are backed up by facts, this being if you're overweight and not taking your training seriously, there's no way you're competitive. I pity any HS coaches these days, I assistant coached a few seasons, and there is no way in hell I could go back to dealing with the headaches of politics and parents. Sad reality.

Wow, everything on here sound like I'm reading straight fro LRC!

Yeah, we want to be just like other sports where kids get cut and then stop being active. The number of HS runners who will run competitively in college is small, but the number that will keep running or become coaches or officials is significant. The last thing I want to see is kids being less active.

Maybe that fat kid who would like to come out reads that and says "nah". Maybe that fat kid is one that in a couple of years is a contributor to the team.

Gerry Lindgren was coached by Tracy Walters in high school, where Walters was responsible for inspiring Gerry to the heights he reached. In the summer following high school graduation and his historic 13:44 5k, Lindgren ran 200 miles a week for 6 weeks in preparation for the US-USSR meet. After that victory, he also set a new teenage record of 13:17.0 for 3 miles while competing in Jamaica, a meet where he ran his mile best of 4:01.5 as well, both on a dirt track. Lindgren's greatest gift was his unending capacity for hard work, as well as his prodigious recuperative powers. Where most runners would have been completely broken by the massive mileage amounts Lindgren ran, Gerry thrived on it and only became faster. He inspired a generation to train hard and give everything to the race.

Yes, we need to weed out all these young snowflakes wussies and find the next Gerry, Steve, and Haile here in America. You can't beat the Kenyans if your concerned about hurting a fat kids feelings. More fat-shaming, more miles, less video games, more pressure to succeed. Weed out the weak and slow amongst the masses of pampered youth. You only have a short time before they start to become worthless couch potatoes and mindless Democrats. More fear of failure, more miles, less cheese doodles.

M.A.G.A...

How many of you have coached at the high school level? Middle school? Club? JuCo? NAIA? NCAA Div I? Div II? Div III? Post-collegiate? International? How about in strength and conditioning? Any sports medicine professionals? Any field related advanced degrees out there? Have any of you compete after high school or after college?

How many of you, in the dark web of the running world, are sitting behind your keyboards lying, mostly to yourselves, as you type about things you have never experienced, studied, or have any understanding of? Or worse yet, you are not lying and are espousing bad practices in the name of 'it's how we did it back in my day'.

At the high school level, it is entirely possible to build large teams, promote health, wellness, and fitness, train champions, and help to prepare student-athletes for the next level(s), whatever that may represent to them individually. It is also possible to do this with ease while heeding the best available evidence and practices in the areas of biomechanics, exercise physiology, sports psychology, sports medicine, and nutrition, all without mentally and physically torturing children and young adults.

To echo the sentiments of the OP. Stop Hurting Young People.