Strange happenings` wrote:
Being a man, he doesn't even need to train much.
In fact he looks like he doesn't.
Agreed. Nothing better than a high school male.
Strange happenings` wrote:
Being a man, he doesn't even need to train much.
In fact he looks like he doesn't.
Agreed. Nothing better than a high school male.
Proof that she is a 400/800 type not a 800/1500 type.
The female Juantorena! Why she bothers with 1500 is beyond me; she would stand more chance of winning a 400 in Diamond League races than a fast 1500.
If she had better endurance a sub 50 400 should point to a 800 in the low 1:50s; "jog" through 400 in 55 and come home in 56? 57?
FIXIXgfifti wrote:
Since when they s the 400 to 800 conversion
(2 x 49.96) + 14.33
..,when your 800 to 1500 is
(2 x 1:54.25) + 11.42
Nobody who got past 1st grade math does that! Times two plus a number doesn't establish proportionality.
Use decimals. 2.2 is around average of good 800 runners. 50 x 2.2 = 110 or 1:50. Semenya at about 2.9 is either an extreme outlier or sandbagging mightily in the 800.
LetsRun.com wrote:
She won by 1.23 seconds.
https://twitter.com/athleticsafrica/status/1025402416236306432
*He
Interesting how only a couple of athletes have official date of births, I guess the other are age cheats.
Heptathlon when?
Bad Wigins wrote:
FIXIXgfifti wrote:
Since when they s the 400 to 800 conversion
(2 x 49.96) + 14.33
..,when your 800 to 1500 is
(2 x 1:54.25) + 11.42
Nobody who got past 1st grade math does that! Times two plus a number doesn't establish proportionality.
Use decimals. 2.2 is around average of good 800 runners. 50 x 2.2 = 110 or 1:50. Semenya at about 2.9 is either an extreme outlier or sandbagging mightily in the 800.
Yeah 2.9 would be an extreme outlier.
1:54 ÷ 50 = 2.28. Maths fail Wiggins.
Let's look at Korir:
1:42 ÷ 44.2 = 2.31
Oh, outlier you say?
2.28 x 45 = 1:42.6. A totally reasonable set of PBs.
2.28 is perfectly reasonable for a speed type. I'm sick of the posters here saying 50.x speed indicated sub 1:50 performances. It DOES NOT.
It indicates good basic speed, but anyone who has raced the 800m to a decent level understands the crux of the event is surviving the burn. It's not just all out 400m pace.
Who here actually coaches? 50 and 1:54 are performances young males put together all the time. They can't just run 1:49 right then. It indicates good things going forwards when they mature but Semenya is mature so there is no going forwards.
trollism wrote:
LRCRacismSexismWatchDog wrote:
BARK
You do realise that nobody is ever going to say: 'Remember that 'bark' guy, he was hilarious, loved his schtick'?
Stop trying to make bark happen, it's never going to happen.
I completely disagree. I think it’s hilarious.
Plus, now if anyone says “this site isn’t that racist”, all you have to do is search ‘BARK’ on the forums to find dozens of examples.
milermb wrote:
Proof that she is a 400/800 type not a 800/1500 type.
The female Juantorena! Why she bothers with 1500 is beyond me; she would stand more chance of winning a 400 in Diamond League races than a fast 1500.
If she had better endurance a sub 50 400 should point to a 800 in the low 1:50s; "jog" through 400 in 55 and come home in 56? 57?
His PBs:
400m: 49.96
600m: 1:21.77 WB
800m: 1:54.25
1500m: 3:59.92 NR
World records in those events:
Marita Koch 47.60
Jarmila Kratochvílová 1:53.28 (she was probably a he too)
Genzebe Dibaba (ETH) 3:50.07 (works with a coach that is known for doping)
Macdaddy wrote:
trollism wrote:
You do realise that nobody is ever going to say: 'Remember that 'bark' guy, he was hilarious, loved his schtick'?
Stop trying to make bark happen, it's never going to happen.
I completely disagree. I think it’s hilarious.
Plus, now if anyone says “this site isn’t that racist”, all you have to do is search ‘BARK’ on the forums to find dozens of examples.
No, it would be better for everyone if you just stopped doing it and maybe think of another way of getting yourself into 'letsrun folklore'. You're also not kidding anyone with the new username.
zerezr wrote:
LetsRun.com wrote:
She won by 1.23 seconds.
https://twitter.com/athleticsafrica/status/1025402416236306432*He
Interesting how only a couple of athletes have official date of births, I guess the other are age cheats.
Why the f*$k do you feel compelled to bring up "age cheating" on the topic of a senior championship? This isn't a meet for teenagers. No reason to pretend to be a teenager. Let go of hating Africans for at least one thread.
As for Caster, I think most of the guys on Letsrun are salty that they can't break 50 in a 400 or run nearly as fast in an 800 or 1500 as she can. I understand her biology is under scrutiny, but y'all speculate on her anatomy without producing any report or evidence to back up your claims that she is a man. Y'all speak of internal testes, but can you corroborate that assertion? Because I'm pretty sure none of you have had access to her medical information. I have seen her race and heard her talk - I get it ...
But all you know is she is considered a DSD athlete with higher levels of testosterone than most women. I'd wager there are dozens of athletes with levels of testosterone rivaling Caster's (for instance - and I do not claim that she is NOT a woman - have any of you seen Brittney Reese? She doesn't look very feminine. She jumps basically 24' in the long jump. That is easily as impressive to me as a 1:54 800). Caster just bears the brunt of the criticism because she does not dress like a woman when she competes, and is an easier target than other athletes who perhaps do not manifest all the physical characteristics of their high T.
Ajee Wilson wouldn't have broken the American record without Caster or the other ladies pulling her along. At the end of the day, plenty of the people on this forum who whine about how unfair it is that other women are losing medals to Caster also seem to be the kind of people who don't respect women very much in the first place. In fact, lots of you seem to be the kind of people who use the term "snowflake" when someone disagrees with your political views, so it's funny that many of you act like such snowflakes when it comes to Caster simply wanting to run and be herself. Let the women in the sport try to rise to Caster's level, rather than complain about how unfair it is that they can't run as fast as she can. It's really not the big deal all of you make it out to be.
So ya need proof do ya that she is a he?
https://www.gettyimages.com/license/945659046https://www.gettyimages.com/license/831090860First “female” to go sub 50 for 400m and sub 4 for 1500m. No other real females anywhere close to that, EVER! even roided Eastern Europeans in the 80s, doped Chinese in the 90s and EPO etheopians in the 2010s could do that.
Plenty of decent high school level males can do it though.
Hmmmm!
Couldn’t
No real woman in history of track and field has ever broken 50 for 400m and 4 minutes for 1500m. It’s impossible with female physiology to do both. This is just further proof this is a man posing as a woman.
Obviously a dude wrote:
First “female” to go sub 50 for 400m and sub 4 for 1500m. No other real females anywhere close to that, EVER! even roided Eastern Europeans in the 80s, doped Chinese in the 90s and EPO etheopians in the 2010s could do that.
Plenty of decent high school level males can do it though.
Hmmmm!
How fast was Mary Slaney at 400?
Not sure about Slaney. However, if Allyson Felix’s best for 400m is 49.26, what do you think Slaney could run?
Vfvtfyvvfy wrote:
Obviously a dude wrote:
First “female” to go sub 50 for 400m and sub 4 for 1500m. No other real females anywhere close to that, EVER! even roided Eastern Europeans in the 80s, doped Chinese in the 90s and EPO etheopians in the 2010s could do that.
Plenty of decent high school level males can do it though.
Hmmmm!
How fast was Mary Slaney at 400?
Her 220y PR is cited as 23.7.
Whatley wrote:Semenya is doing nothing other than being who she is, just like we all do.
Semanya is also participating in women's competitions. Just like a significant number of us don't.
OLD SMTC SOB wrote:
What a surprise.
maybe it would be if she ran 47.60....LOL
Vfvtfyvvfy wrote:
Obviously a dude wrote:
First “female” to go sub 50 for 400m and sub 4 for 1500m. No other real females anywhere close to that, EVER! even roided Eastern Europeans in the 80s, doped Chinese in the 90s and EPO etheopians in the 2010s could do that.
Plenty of decent high school level males can do it though.
Hmmmm!
How fast was Mary Slaney at 400?
Mary ran 2:02 at age 14 but only ran 52. Olizarenko was the closest with a sub 51 and sub 4. This puts Semenya's performance in perspective, but also Mary's range.
Slaney: 52.77, 1:56.90, 3:57.12, 8:25.83
Quirot: 49.61, 1:54.44, 4:13.08
Mutola: 51.55, 1:55.19, 4:01.50
Miles-Clark: 49.40, 1:56.40, 4:31.41
Olizarenko: 50.96, 1:53.43, 3:59.48
Semenya: 49.96, 1:54.25, 3:59.92
Kratochvilova: 47.99, 1:53.28