This is the workout that told Jerry Schumacher that Shelby Houlihan was ready to run the American 5000m record in Heusden.

Wouldn't it be something if you yourself actually went out and did the interview instead cutting and pasting from Runnersworld? You and your site have become complacent, fat, and lazy. Definitely NOT the journalists you claim to be.

That workout would be way too fast for me and my PB is 14:37. What does that say about me? (Note: My speed is horrible, 5k is the shortest distance I can run decent at.)

That workout seems pretty tame by a pro's standards. (I've read about some of the crazy workouts Flanagan has done before.) I assume it was more the way she handled herself and was feeling than the actual interval times that told Schumacher/Houlihan the record was within reach.

And no body is thinking she is doping? I think all the people involve with Nike are suspicious. Shelby is a great running but she just broke the U.S 5k record by improving her PB by 25 seconds. Anyway, good for her and i hope she is not doping.

Not impressed wrote:

That workout seems pretty tame by a pro's standards. (I've read about some of the crazy workouts Flanagan has done before.) I assume it was more the way she handled herself and was feeling than the actual interval times that told Schumacher/Houlihan the record was within reach.

Younger athletes with more leg speed and lower mileage backgrounds are not typically able to do jaw-dropping workouts, even if they can race very well. That's one of the reasons it's very difficult to answer these threads where people say, "I did X for a workout, how fast can I race?" You have to know a lot about the background of the runner to know how workouts relate to races.

Am I reading correctly?

1200/400/400 x 3?

Is this just her on the track alone or does BTC have rabbits (especially for the women)?

Erosion wrote:

Wouldn't it be something if you yourself actually went out and did the interview instead cutting and pasting from Runnersworld? You and your site have become complacent, fat, and lazy. Definitely NOT the journalists you claim to be.

I first read this as: "Wouldn't it be something if you yourself actually went out and did the workout? You have become complacent, fat, and lazy." I thought, "Whoa, where did that come from?"

Natural-runner wrote:

And no body is thinking she is doping? I think all the people involve with Nike are suspicious. Shelby is a great running but she just broke the U.S 5k record by improving her PB by 25 seconds.

For once, the interviewer explicitly asked about her big improvements this year, and how suspicious they look. Her answer is interesting. Basically, she says she could have run PBs last year, but that her attitude kept her back. She said it's taken her a while to get her head straight so that she could run up to her potential.

Having known some elite runners who suffered from second-guessing themselves during races, I find this plausible. Who knows whether it's true. It is true that she's been talking about improving her attitude for a while.

Natural-runner wrote:

And no body is thinking she is doping? I think all the people involve with Nike are suspicious. Shelby is a great running but she just broke the U.S 5k record by improving her PB by 25 seconds. Anyway, good for her and i hope she is not doping.

No. We trust the anti-doping agencies in the US and we don't trust the anti-doping agencies in Kenya. Simple. Take off your tinfoil hat.

Houlihan is a beast wrote:

That workout would be way too fast for me and my PB is 14:37. What does that say about me? (Note: My speed is horrible, 5k is the shortest distance I can run decent at.)

I would be the opposite. I could do have done the session, but not the 14:37 5000m. I was more on the speed end, and found running a decent 5000m a stretch.

That workout would be way too fast for me and my PB is 14:37. What does that say about me? (Note: My speed is horrible, 5k is the shortest distance I can run decent at.)[/quote]

I would be the opposite. I could do have done the session, but not the 14:37 5000m. I was more on the speed end, and found running a decent 5000m a stretch.[/quote]

What if it was the typical, what can I run a 5k in post?

I recently ran this workout:

1200/400/400 x 3 sets, 3 minutes rest after the 1,200's and between sets, one minute rest after the first 400 of each set.

My times were:

3:29, 66, 65

3:27, 66, 65

3:24, 66, 65

My most recent race was a 3:57 1,500m.

I would have said 14:45

My PR was 1 minute slower and I could have run that workout.

Went too fast wrote:

Erosion wrote:

Wouldn't it be something if you yourself actually went out and did the interview instead cutting and pasting from Runnersworld? You and your site have become complacent, fat, and lazy. Definitely NOT the journalists you claim to be.

I first read this as: "Wouldn't it be something if you yourself actually went out and did the workout? You have become complacent, fat, and lazy." I thought, "Whoa, where did that come from?"

???

At least she responded wrote:

Natural-runner wrote:

And no body is thinking she is doping? I think all the people involve with Nike are suspicious. Shelby is a great running but she just broke the U.S 5k record by improving her PB by 25 seconds.

For once, the interviewer explicitly asked about her big improvements this year, and how suspicious they look. Her answer is interesting. Basically, she says she could have run PBs last year, but that her attitude kept her back. She said it's taken her a while to get her head straight so that she could run up to her potential.

Having known some elite runners who suffered from second-guessing themselves during races, I find this plausible. Who knows whether it's true. It is true that she's been talking about improving her attitude for a while.

they didn't ask her if she was doping,. They dance around it with a question that was basically "people haves suspicions. tell us why they are wrong. " It's a common tactic when you don't want to p**S off your subject.

Erosion wrote:

Wouldn't it be something if you yourself actually went out and did the interview instead cutting and pasting from Runnersworld? You and your site have become complacent, fat, and lazy. Definitely NOT the journalists you claim to be.

Whew, tough crowd. That being said there is some truth to this.

LRC, what is your plan? Status quo or do you want to leverage your brand to do bigger and better things? How in the world is Runners' World getting the scoop on you? I'm guessing that they don't invest a lot of money in elite running.

It might be time to sit down and take a good long look in the mirror, and/or, as my mom told me, it might be time to grow up.

Natural-runner wrote:

And no body is thinking she is doping? I think all the people involve with Nike are suspicious. Shelby is a great running but she just broke the U.S 5k record by improving her PB by 25 seconds. Anyway, good for her and i hope she is not doping.

you obviously didn't read the article.

she said, several times, that her 15:02 pb was not reflective of her fitness last year or this. she said she could have probably run 14:40's last year. So, it would have been a 12-15 second pb (from 15:02), followed by a 10ish second pb this year to get AR

Nothing crazy for someone who focused on the 800/1500m distance in college

Natural-runner wrote:

And no body is thinking she is doping? I think all the people involve with Nike are suspicious. Shelby is a great running but she just broke the U.S 5k record by improving her PB by 25 seconds. Anyway, good for her and i hope she is not doping.

I know for a fact that anybody that is coached by Jerry is dirty.

Glad to see Schumacher is a Canova disciple. Pulled this straight from Mosop.

Sand Dunes wrote:

Natural-runner wrote:

And no body is thinking she is doping? I think all the people involve with Nike are suspicious. Shelby is a great running but she just broke the U.S 5k record by improving her PB by 25 seconds. Anyway, good for her and i hope she is not doping.

I know for a fact that anybody that is coached by Al Sal is dirty.

Fixed that for you.