800-1000 meters
800-1000 meters
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I use too waste 10+ minutes doing dynamic stretching. Now I just run. The only differences I've noticed is improvements in how I run.
Human Torch wrote:
800-1000 meters
MADE IT 2.5 LAPS - 1000M. Showed up 60 seconds before the gun went off and everyone lined up on the track, they waited until I got my spikes on, I stepped up to the line, the gun went off and I took off for the lead. It was torture. dropped at 1000m. Never again.
roblox oof sound wrote:
what if... wrote:
serious answer i feel it would be tough as hell to finish even 1 lap. 2 laps, absolutely not.
hahahahahaa I've done 400 break 400 break 800 all at mile pace with no warmup before. you are so wrong
That's why you started with just 400, like he said.
It will be less than a mile due to the ineffective delivery of oxygen to the muscles...ineffective given how much you could deliver if you'd warmed up. I'd say 1000-1200 meters before you'd dip below pace.
Ambush predators in hot climates are poor models for competitive distance runners. They don't have the luxury to alert their prey to their presence with movement prior to the attack, for one thing. Also they typically either get their prey within 60 seconds or they bail.
Cold-climate pursuit predators (mainly wolves) are almost always on the move, fully warmed up by the time they begin their final approach.
As a side note, look at the starting line of a 200 or 400 v. a mile/5000, and note how much movement the athletes are engaged in. Sprinters are maximizing muscle tension, often standing for up to five minutes without a move, except to jump or two to "load" the muscles, whilst the mid-D runners are bouncing around like stotting antelope.
I think you'd be close to your actual mile time if it was a one off, the aftermath would be sooooo much worse though
Ive ran 4:32 with absolutely no warmup. My pr is 4:31 and Ive run between 4:31-33 6 times in a row but still. Warm ups might be overrated. weather plays a huge factor in this i believe
You don't takeoff
Once I gout caught in a traffic jam and showed up for a 1500m race 1 minute before the start. I asked the starters to wait for me to put on my spikes, did 1 stride and off I went. I run within 1 second of my PR.
Another time I got late for a mile and my only warmup was running half a mile to get to the start line on time. I run my PR by 5 seconds.
Granted, perhaps I could have run even faster with a proper warm-up, but lack of a warmup did not seem to matter a great deal in these cases, I only remember feeling like crap for the first 400m.
I would probably rig up in the first 400 and stagger in 20 or so seconds slower than my PR of 4:33. Mile pace with no warmup would be too much of a shock to the system. (There would be slight variations in this depending on what you mean by "NO warmup:" Are you referring to right out of bed after a night's sleep, off the sofa, or in the middle of a typical day?)
I've had two experiences of arriving much later than intended at race venues, with no time to do anything other than put on my race shoes, strip off my sweats, and head to the line. One was a 5k, the other a 5-miler, and even those didn't go very well.
I really appreciate this thread as it told me what just happened to me.
Due to my complete inexperience (only 6 weeks of daily steady 30mins runs, had never trained running before), I just did that perfect test - running a fast mile w/o warming up at the age of 43.
See here:
http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=9147633&page=2
Summary - I completed the run at 10.5mph on a treadmill (5:43/mile), but experienced a really low point around 3-3:30. I held on by maxing out my breathing to extreme (ended up with a sore throat like after screaming a lot) and switching to longer steps for 15-20secs couple times to ease the pressure. By minute 5 I was back to normal.
That low point was very unusual, as my 8mph/30min runs didn't really need any warm up other than 2 mins of walking.
Can someone help me out and suggest a good warmup routine for a mile, prepping up the body sufficienctly w/o getting too exhausted?
Thanks,
Alex
P.S. My story in short. I decided to start running 6 weeks ago at the age of 43 with the goal of making a 5 min mile by 45. No running/training experience, but I ran 800m/2:12 at 17 with no training whatsoever, and kept the same weight all my life. So I have I still have some reserves left to get to 5:00 eventually.
YMMV wrote:
Ambush predators in hot climates are poor models for competitive distance runners. They don't have the luxury to alert their prey to their presence with movement prior to the attack, for one thing. Also they typically either get their prey within 60 seconds or they bail.
Cold-climate pursuit predators (mainly wolves) are almost always on the move, fully warmed up by the time they begin their final approach.
As a side note, look at the starting line of a 200 or 400 v. a mile/5000, and note how much movement the athletes are engaged in. Sprinters are maximizing muscle tension, often standing for up to five minutes without a move, except to jump or two to "load" the muscles, whilst the mid-D runners are bouncing around like stotting antelope.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RIgq9vdX-s
To counter your points, plenty of ambush predators have cold weather counterparts (Snow Leopard, Amur Leopard, Siberian Tiger, Lynx etc.) and cursorial predators like Wolves also have African and Indian counterparts. African and Indian Wolves as well as Dholes and African Hunting Dogs.
The truth is that a person used to warming up extensively won't run well in a cold time trial but if you show up to a race with no warm-up you'll do fine as long as you don't mentally already have the "I missed my warm-up" excuse ready to go.
The third quarter of a mile race always feels the worst...running hard indoors have me a sore throat every time...2:12 in the 800m untrained when you were young bodes well for you breaking 5 even in your forties...the treadmill is fine for easy runs and even tempo runs be you really need to get outside, preferably to a track a few times a week for speed work if you are training for the mile. Get in the habit of using the same warmup before workouts and races. The length and intensity of your warmup should increase as your fitness increases but to start out you might do something like a 10 minute jog, some light stretching, a few stiders at race pace, then a few more minutes of jogging.
I'm 59- After a proper warm up I can barely move when I start.
This guy maximized his potential more than possibly any runner in history. Nothing in his high school career indicated 1:42 potential. He warmed up for an hour for every race in his career:
Had a high school teammate whose warmup generally consisted of eating a candy bar and looking at the track. He won a state title so didn't seem to hurt him too much. In complete seriousness, I think he did some strides, but I don't think he jogged much at all. And he hated doing drills.
For me, in my high school days I could probably go 1000. Right now, maybe 600 meters. It would hurt like hell the first 30 seconds, but then muscle memory kicks in.
its not as big deal in the mile. woulda been a better thread if it was titled for the 10K/ half Mary/ Mary or somethin
Without warming up, I can't even hit MP for more than a few strides. I've tried starting MP runs with a short warm up, and the results weren't pretty. I'd probably make it around 10 meters at mile pace without a long warm up. I'm old.
FFF wrote:
Warming up is overrated, anyway. You ever see a jaguar warm up before running down prey? Didn't think so.
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