This is really long but DAMN is it good. Getting these three together at once was really cool. This is the model for coaching and managing talented young female runners. Tons of info, some almost shocking, like Venters having leukemia as a kid. Gonna have re-read this. Almost too much for one sitting. The Epilogue is really cool.
http://ks.milesplit.com/articles/243462-lessons-from-the-triumvirates-legendary-season
They really have to start the article out insulting girls from other states? Classy.
way to make me barf wrote:
They really have to start the article out insulting girls from other states? Classy.
The jackasses on here never cease to amaze me. A simple numerical illustration of why what they did is so rare is not even in the galaxy an insult.
I'd tell most people to keep reading because they'd learn a ton, but I'm pretty sure all the gems in this article about training, youth sports, racing, diet and everything else would be lost on you. But thanks for playing.
way to make me barf wrote:
They really have to start the article out insulting girls from other states? Classy.
I'm sure you didn't even make it to stuff like this:
For Venters, it has been an ongoing battle with low ferritin, for Born the navicular stress fracture and for Logue, it was undiagnosed walking pneumonia that knocked her out of NXN. The details of those lessons and insights are best told by them in the following video clips.
But before diving into those running-related issues, there's one non-running health issue that needs to be addressed first, and it's something Emily Venters hasn't talked much about...until now.
"My coaches know, but it's not something that just comes up in conversation so I never really talk about it," says Venters.
For her third birthday, Emily Venters got a new bike. She put on her helmet to ride it at her birthday party, and a few days later her parents noticed some extreme bruising on her chin where the chin strap of her helmet had been. She was taken to the doctor and diagnosed with acute lymphoblastic leukemia (ALL) in her T-cells. She spent the better part of the next two years in Children's Mercy Hospital in Kansas City, Missouri for frequent chemotherapy. Though she has remained cancer-free since then, she still receives regular check-ups to ensure that she's still in remission and that the chemo didn't cause any permanent damage to her heart. "My mom says that after that, I've always been a fighter," says Venters.
It is not believed that there is a relationship between the childhood leukemia or chemotherapy and her recent struggles with ferritin, but it may never be known for sure.
Looee Zamporenee wrote:
This is really long but DAMN is it good. Getting these three together at once was really cool. This is the model for coaching and managing talented young female runners. Tons of info, some almost shocking, like Venters having leukemia as a kid. Gonna have re-read this. Almost too much for one sitting. The Epilogue is really cool.
http://ks.milesplit.com/articles/243462-lessons-from-the-triumvirates-legendary-season
Ignore the troll. OP was spot on. Excellent article.
Silly article. Talent comes in waves and sometimes concentrates in one area.
All sorts of lesser talented people might be relatively doing all the same things and just not getting noticed.
I could name several cases of racehorses being born on the same farm and being the stars of the year. Some were even born on the same night in the same barn.
Started to read it but can’t stand that cheesy milesplit writing style. It’s written at an 8th grade level. “ Once , these three runners were slow , now they are fast . Run girls run .”
I didn't realize Venters ran that fast for a 5k this summer. I hadn't even heard of her while she was in high school. Ostrander's biggest competition next year might come from her own teammate.
I agree. Must read for female runners and parents. Thanks for posting!
Houlihan, Schweizer, Simpson, and Kohl were all born in Iowa. They have all run quite a bit faster than these girls.
Iowa does it best wrote:
Houlihan, Schweizer, Simpson, and Kohl were all born in Iowa. They have all run quite a bit faster than these girls.
This is why I don't come here much, way too many morons. The author clearly made the point that what was unique is that they were all there at the same time, which is a valid point. Because that point was on the first page , I'm guessing you stumbled over some big words and didn't make it past the first page.
I agree with the OP that this is a must-read for young female runners and anyone else working with them (coaches, parents). Great to hear it right from them in the vids. Way more maturity exhibited by the girls in the vids than by the creeps posting in this thread.
Crap like the sick idiots in this thread makes me wish there was some kind of troll repellent I spray on my computer.
MikeSmith wrote:
Iowa does it best wrote:
Houlihan, Schweizer, Simpson, and Kohl were all born in Iowa. They have all run quite a bit faster than these girls.
This is why I don't come here much, way too many morons. The author clearly made the point that what was unique is that they were all there at the same time, which is a valid point. Because that point was on the first page , I'm guessing you stumbled over some big words and didn't make it past the first page.
I agree with the OP that this is a must-read for young female runners and anyone else working with them (coaches, parents). Great to hear it right from them in the vids. Way more maturity exhibited by the girls in the vids than by the creeps posting in this thread.
Crap like the sick idiots in this thread makes me wish there was some kind of troll repellent I spray on my computer.
Not trying to be disrespectful, but what parts of this specifically make it a must-read for female runners, coaches and parents and why is not a valid read for male runners?
Mike Dropped wrote:
Not trying to be disrespectful, but what parts of this specifically make it a must-read for female runners, coaches and parents and why is not a valid read for male runners?
Fair question, and I'll give my take on what I got from it and why I agreed with the OP.
Not sure if you read the whole thing and watched all the vids or not (it is long but also agree with the OP that it's worth it), but if you did, it's not just one thing but the whole picture that's different from how young females are often developed. We see some girls now running HS races as early as 7th grade, which is nuts. These three didn't do anything near that. Very low key through middle school in terms of comp, and most were still in multiple sports. Their training load was very light as freshman, and gradually increased. They bloomed a little later but were faster than those who bloomed earlier. They paid attention to the details (sleep, recovery, diet, etc.) but didn't get compulsive about it. All three seemed to really have their stuff together for the long haul.
Bottom line, they and their coaches/parents were patient and it paid off. Two of the three (Logue and Venters) took three of the four US team spots at World Juniors at 3000 and 5000 so yeah, worth paying attention to what they did.
I agreed that it was a must read for females because we see girls often developed faster/earlier and then either top out sooner or quit altogether. How many times have we seen that? These three were a great example, in my opinion, of doing it right. Guys could also benefit from a lot of it, but the OP was correct that it was particularly useful for girls.
It's also unusual to get three girls of that caliber to sit down and talk that long about everything related to the sport. Don't think I've ever seen that before and I thought it was pretty cool.
Just my 2 cents. Hope that helps.
MikeSmith wrote:
Fair question, and I'll give my take on what I got from it and why I agreed with the OP.
Not sure if you read the whole thing and watched all the vids or not (it is long but also agree with the OP that it's worth it), but if you did, it's not just one thing but the whole picture that's different from how young females are often developed. We see some girls now running HS races as early as 7th grade, which is nuts. These three didn't do anything near that. Very low key through middle school in terms of comp, and most were still in multiple sports. Their training load was very light as freshman, and gradually increased. They bloomed a little later but were faster than those who bloomed earlier. They paid attention to the details (sleep, recovery, diet, etc.) but didn't get compulsive about it. All three seemed to really have their stuff together for the long haul.
Bottom line, they and their coaches/parents were patient and it paid off. Two of the three (Logue and Venters) took three of the four US team spots at World Juniors at 3000 and 5000 so yeah, worth paying attention to what they did.
I agreed that it was a must read for females because we see girls often developed faster/earlier and then either top out sooner or quit altogether. How many times have we seen that? These three were a great example, in my opinion, of doing it right. Guys could also benefit from a lot of it, but the OP was correct that it was particularly useful for girls.
It's also unusual to get three girls of that caliber to sit down and talk that long about everything related to the sport. Don't think I've ever seen that before and I thought it was pretty cool.
Just my 2 cents. Hope that helps.
I agree with this and I've sent this to all of the members of our girls XC team and also to the middle school coaches in our district. Seeing Cain's DNF today and struggles the last two years made what's in this article seem a little more important. Thanks to the OP for posting it. Probably never would have seen it otherwise.