help me go from chump to champ with mega miles

I can't stress enough how bad an idea this is. Even if you somehow manage to stay healthy you probably won't improve as much as you think you will. 120 mpw of easy mileage is sub-optimal training for a lot of people, contrary to what some on letsrun believe. And it's especially sub-optimal for people who don't have a big lifetime base of mileage that lets them handle that much volume. You will improve far more and get far more out of your training if you stick to 50 mpw and sensible workouts. Don't get carried away, just stick to that consistent grind and you'll steadily improve.

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Did you just have a stroke?

You have the right idea but you need to be more conservative. It's going to take a lot longer to build up to 120 and safely sustain that kind of mileage.

Bob Deines training:

"Starting in the summer of 1967," Bob said, "I upped my mileage to about 90 miles a week. I was getting 100 to 110 in 1968 and have stayed at about that. I've even slowed down the pace since then -- if you can believe that -- to 7:30 to 8:00 and sometimes slower, usually just running two hours a day and three to four hours on either Saturday or Sunday.

"I might add that I never run more than once a day. Double workouts are too much added effort for the benefits gained. I'd much rather get in one solid, long run than two shorter ones. Besides, all that showering and changing is a big waste of time."

I'll add, he raced every other week. So if you don't race that often add a speed workout once a week.

http://www.joehenderson.com/longslowdistance/home.php?article=2208

So you think I should run slower and do singles instead of doubles? One thing I didn't mention in the original post that might be relevant is body type I'm 5'8 128 lbs.

Incredible times for running a lot of 7:30 - 8 min miles though. Maybe this strategy is worth replicating.

wiz khalifa wrote:

So you think I should run slower and do singles instead of doubles? One thing I didn't mention in the original post that might be relevant is body type I'm 5'8 128 lbs.

From what I've read this is basically how Yuki Kawuachi trains and he is about your height and weight. Me personally I prefer high mileage on singles (I'm also about your height and weight). I feel the body recovers better and one is not as likely to over train.

If I stick to 50 mpw, I am going to stay slow.

bigtool05 wrote:

I can't stress enough how bad an idea this is. Even if you somehow manage to stay healthy you probably won't improve as much as you think you will. 120 mpw of easy mileage is sub-optimal training for a lot of people, contrary to what some on letsrun believe. And it's especially sub-optimal for people who don't have a big lifetime base of mileage that lets them handle that much volume. You will improve far more and get far more out of your training if you stick to 50 mpw and sensible workouts. Don't get carried away, just stick to that consistent grind and you'll steadily improve.

Right answer.

wiz khalifa wrote:

If I stick to 50 mpw, I am going to stay slow.

You are looking at it wrong. You do the volume that forces adaptation and gives you enough recovery.

The goal is faster aerobic paces, not 50 mpw.

Don't listen to the idiots here about high mileage. More is not better, better is better.

Jimbo. wrote:

Don't listen to the idiots here about high mileage. More is not better, better is better.

you'd be much better off just running 60-80 mpw every week of the year, with two workouts per week.

Sand Dunes wrote:

Jimbo. wrote:

Don't listen to the idiots here about high mileage. More is not better, better is better.

http://www.letsrun.com/news/2006/09/wejo-speaks-why-i-sucked-in-college/

This changed my life, thanks for enlightening us

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wiz khalifa wrote:

If I stick to 50 mpw, I am going to stay slow.

No... I am 16, 5'9 and 125-130lbs and did 50 mpw last track season around 7:10 pace on easy days and ran 4:29/9:29. I ran 55 mpw in XC with my easy day pace at 7:30-8:00 and ran 15:47 XC 5k (it was a fast course and might be a little short but still. I averaged around 16:30 on other hilly courses). So no, you won't stay slow running 50 mpw. A lot of it also depends on the workouts you are doing and other stuff such as lifting.

bigtool05 wrote:

I can't stress enough how bad an idea this is. Even if you somehow manage to stay healthy you probably won't improve as much as you think you will. 120 mpw of easy mileage is sub-optimal training for a lot of people, contrary to what some on letsrun believe. And it's especially sub-optimal for people who don't have a big lifetime base of mileage that lets them handle that much volume. You will improve far more and get far more out of your training if you stick to 50 mpw and sensible workouts. Don't get carried away, just stick to that consistent grind and you'll steadily improve.

Did you miss the part that says "about to turn 19."

What's the worst that can happen? He or she gets injured and learns their lesson. American runners are way too sissy-ish.

There will never be another Bill Rodgers because everyone is so wimpy.

Please post your Strava account.

There's too many old timers who pretend they are still young and in their glory days simply so that they can sock puppet each other.

Until I see your training online, I don't believe it.