Is Shelby Houlihan dirty?

HuskerG wrote:

Well that seals the deal! 14.34 for 5K!

She's JUICED

I'm sorry you don't believe in miracles.

HuskerG wrote:

Well that seals the deal! 14.34 for 5K!

She's JUICED

Very suspicious indeed.

Shelby’s family and friends wrote:

People who know her will tell you that she is absolutely clean. She is very nice and humble. She is the type of person that we should all be proud of as Americans. Let’s root for her instead of trying to discredit her. I was so excited that she won the 1500 over world class competition but then I came to this site to continue reading about running and was disappointed to see this type of unwarranted accusations. Do you know any 25 year old women? Think about how they would feel if everyone made up rumors about them. Once they start, people hear them and don’t know that they are false. What would the creators of this site do if it were their daughters who were being gossiped about here?

Someone will always tell you a doper is clean.

The arms at the photo finish say it all .., if any foreign athlete looked like that all us fans would screem drugs. Her improvements are odd, he muscles are red flags, her ability to run multiple events - and dominate - with minimal recovery is interesting, her breaking records - well that’s just fun to watch.

You know who's dirty is Ronnie Baker.

If an NOP athlete was making these sort of ridiculous jumps in performance and body comp as Houlihan (she’s not the only one on BTC), Rojo, Kara and the BTC athletes would be lighting this message board up with hate and lies (more than usual anyway).

She's as funny as Ayana now with her 25s pb improvement.

That's like the yarn Kratochvilova used to tell about growing up on a farm lobbing haybales. Tell us another.

Houlihan on doping accusers in Runners World interview:

https://www.runnersworld.com/news/a22520474/shelby-houlihan-is-on-a-hot-streak/

RW: At a time when the sport suffers from allegations of doping, whenever somebody like you has a huge breakthrough, there are always people who are skeptics and question the legitimacy of your performance. How do you handle that?

SH: In a way you have to be honored that you’re at the level that people are questioning it. I try not to read all that stuff because it can get to me a little bit. It’s a little defeating. It takes the air out of your balloon. It’s a time when I should be celebrating and really happy and if I’m reading things that say I have to be cheating, I just want to tell them to have some faith in me. I’m not cheating. It’s easy to jump to those conclusions after this year—on paper I’ve had huge PRs, but if you’re around me every day, seeing what I’m doing, you’d know that I probably should have had a little faster PRs to begin with. I likely could have broken four minutes in the 1500 last year, and I definitely could have been in the 14:40s in the 5K. It’s not as shocking as it seems. I love working hard and I love the workouts that leave me on the ground dying.

Jerry keeps telling the story of when we were in Mammoth and the guys had just finished their workout. I just see Evan [Jager] laid out on the track, dying. I was like, “Yes! This is going to be a good day!” Jerry thought my reaction was so funny. If I’m not on the ground dying, I didn’t work hard enough. I can feel myself getting better.

It’s not my job to convince people that I’m clean. It’s my job to run fast and enjoy what I’m doing. People are going to have opinions about it. I hope they can believe that this is me and I’ve always believed I could get to this point. I love what I do. I’ve worked really hard. It’s not something that’s happened in a year. I started running when I was 5 years old. It’s taken me 20 years to get to this point.

You've been 20 years and make DRAMATIC improvements in just the last one? Riiiiiiiiiiiiiight. And you "could" have run faster times last year? Riiiiiiiiiiiiight.

Tonight I'm living in a fantasy. My own little nasty world. Don't you want to come with me. Do you think I'm a nasty girl.

This thread didn’t age well. I remembered watching this race and thinking the same thing as OP. She looked like a TDF finisher. Not even winded

whoopsie wrote:

This thread didn’t age well. I remembered watching this race and thinking the same thing as OP. She looked like a TDF finisher. Not even winded

I'm glad this was bumped. I remember thinking the same thing about this thread two years ago but everyone was so adamant she just tried really, really hard. Like really hard.

HuskerG wrote:

Well that seals the deal! 14.34 for 5K!

She's JUICED

Yup.

Good job me!

I want to hear response on this turn of events from Colleen Quigley.... her decision and timing to leave BTC takes on new context.

JohnNgugi wrote:

No. Schumacher's athletes are clean.

Try again.

She’s not the Messiah, she’s a very dirty girl.

What concerns me is that these athletes say with a straight face that they are not taking anything to improve their performance, but what they are really trying to do is get through or past injury faster with the use of banned substances and then plan to quit the substance and hope it is out of their system before getting caught. Also, some of these substances go by different names or generic names so when an athlete claims that they have never heard of a drug, it is due to name re-branding.

ok will do.