Thoughts on copying Bill Rodgers training philosophy? From what I understand:
1. Lots of mileage at a easy pace.
2. Once a week a track workout like 4 x mile.
3. Lots of races.
Thoughts on copying Bill Rodgers training philosophy? From what I understand:
1. Lots of mileage at a easy pace.
2. Once a week a track workout like 4 x mile.
3. Lots of races.
dreamer Supertramp wrote:
Thoughts on copying Bill Rodgers training philosophy? From what I understand:
1. Lots of mileage at a easy pace.
2. Once a week a track workout like 4 x mile.
3. Lots of races.
.............and he quit smoking cigarettes too!
From what I gather this was how most guys in the 70s and 80s trained, not just Bill. Go for it!
That training thing is a big deal.
LSD - long slow distance
Compliments of Bob Hodge:
http://bobhodge.us/bill-rodgers-1977-training-log/#july
Keep in mind Hodge was a 28:58 10k runner and managed to run a 2:10:59 marathon with this type of training. Please try this type of training if you think you have a shot at qualifying for the 2020 Olympic Trials! It is proven and it works!
dreamer Supertramp wrote:
Thoughts on copying Bill Rodgers training philosophy? From what I understand:
1. Lots of mileage at a easy pace.
2. Once a week a track workout like 4 x mile.
3. Lots of races.
4. Lunchtime 8 milers in 40 minutes.
Test
how fast does everyone think his easy pace on those 10-14 mile runs was. 7:00 - 7:30? Faster?
GnomeBe wrote:
That training thing is a big deal.
LSD - long slow distance
Well…...Bill Rodgers and f.ex Frank Shorter`s training systems were linear with almost same mileage week after week.
In this way they were able to compete often at a high level year round. And LSD, when it comes to the founder Lydiard , means Long Steady Distance …...not slow.
Don’t forget to take lots of hot baths. Many of his books and articles talk this.
Bill Rodgers, Peachtree 1977:
"Ran Atlanta “Peach” race. eeeeeeeek! Placed 2nd in 10,000 meter over hilly course – to Shorter – in 29:26 - 10 secs. slower than I ran last year – but it was much hotter this year – ran very hard! Ran 3 mi. right after the race – slow – and ran 10 mi. in P.M. ( 87° & humid) over race course for 20 mi. today."
I bet not a single elite in Atlanta did/is doing 20 miles today including a tough 10K. That's what made Bill great.
Runners didn't worry about pace so much back then, they just ran. As fit as Bill was 6 minute pace could seem easy on some days, others 6:30-7. I doubt he ever ran much slower than 7 minute pace and even then only the first mile or two to warm up and get the kinks out from the previous days 20+ miles.
I'm giving this a go right now. Lets see how it goes
dreamer Supertramp wrote:
Thoughts on copying Bill Rodgers training philosophy? From what I understand:
1. Lots of mileage at a easy pace.
2. Once a week a track workout like 4 x mile.
3. Lots of races.
Not sure where you get the 4 x 1 mile from, but I went down and did a workout once with him and his group, week and a half before boston, 8 x 1 mile w/1:15 jog in 4:40, a couple in 36-38.
granite stater.... wrote:
dreamer Supertramp wrote:
Thoughts on copying Bill Rodgers training philosophy? From what I understand:
1. Lots of mileage at a easy pace.
2. Once a week a track workout like 4 x mile.
3. Lots of races.
Not sure where you get the 4 x 1 mile from, but I went down and did a workout once with him and his group, week and a half before boston, 8 x 1 mile w/1:15 jog in 4:40, a couple in 36-38.
There was a Bill Rodgers video someone linked up here the other week that had footage of the groups workout being 4 x mile at marathon with 4 minutes rest.
Wouldn't be surprised to hear they did workouts like what you witnessed also.
Pretty sure his first book mentioned somewhere in the middle. 5-6 by one mile . Sometimes 800s or 400s for a bit extra speed.
Jack Foster would often do 4 x mile @ about 4:40 pace with a mile easy between sets in about 6:00 minute pace. And, it was done at the horse race track.
dreamer Supertramp wrote:
Thoughts on copying Bill Rodgers training philosophy? From what I understand:
1. Lots of mileage at a easy pace.
2. Once a week a track workout like 4 x mile.
3. Lots of races.
When you look at the big picture of everything, the training Bill was doing and what they do today aren't a whole lot different. You can dress it up all you want, put fancy names on it, but at the end of the day, it's still putting one foot ahead of the other.
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