8-10x400m @ faster than 800m pace with 2:00 rest

Not possible.

Lol not on this planet..

3-4 400s at that pace with 5-10 mins rest is a good workout and still extremely hard

How steep is the hill?

That is a common work out that is a staple of a “Scott Christensen “ style program but it is done at five seconds faster than current mile pace not 800 pace and it is typically done with a three minute recovery. And 8 if them is normally as many as a well trained runner will handle.

Jdjdjsj wrote:

That is a common work out that is a staple of a “Scott Christensen “ style program but it is done at five seconds faster than current mile pace not 800 pace and it is typically done with a three minute recovery. And 8 if them is normally as many as a well trained runner will handle.

For a fit 1500m to one mile runner, five seconds faster than current 1500m/one mile IS 800m race pace.

Not a workout any elite has ever done! No not any!

I don't think this session is possible.

5 x 400m w/ 5' rest at 800m pace would be possible. I don't know about 6 (maybe?). But the idea of 8 or 10 and with 2' rest is just wrong.

Black Caviar wrote:

Lol not on this planet..

3-4 400s at that pace with 5-10 mins rest is a good workout and still extremely hard

This. I once attempted 4 on 4 minutes rest. I got to 300 on the 3rd one. Packed it in after 200 on the last one. Never again.

Not possible. I think I could at one point do 6 AT 800m pace with 3-4 minutes rest, but that was the max I was capable of.

Our usual high school track was not very good but I trained on a good cinder track a few times.

One day I ran 6x 440 in 60.3 on 3 minute starts (2' rests)

The next day with competition I ran 2:01.8 for 880 yards.

My last 220 was 28.8 so maybe I could have run under 2 minutes with different pacing.

I think that's a really good workout for 800 meters and I should have done it more often.

High school `/ wrote:

Our usual high school track was not very good but I trained on a good cinder track a few times.

One day I ran 6x 440 in 60.3 on 3 minute starts (2' rests)

The next day with competition I ran 2:01.8 for 880 yards.

My last 220 was 28.8 so maybe I could have run under 2 minutes with different pacing.

I think that's a really good workout for 800 meters and I should have done it more often.

In addition to the pacing, maybe you could have run under 2 minutes if you hadn't run 6x440 in 60.3 the day before.

Daniel Komen in the 90s, juiced out of his mind probably could've done this. Someone on this forum claimed to watch him do a ladder workout where his mile rep was around 3:50.

IF the workout is treated like a race in terms of preparation and intensity AND the athlete had pacers I think 8 is possible.

I was also in the same camp as all of you with it being impossible, but this workout is close:

https://twitter.com/kelynsoong/status/800805220448141313?s=21

The main thing in question for this workout is the definition of brisk. 500m can certainly be completed in around 2:00 at a brisk pace, but I guess that’s my definition of brisk.

So Centro averaged 51.3 for 6 reps with a somewhat unknown amount of time for rest. That makes me think that MAYBE it would have been possible to average 52.0 with 2 more reps with the same recovery that he was taking. Slow down that 6th rep a little to be able to put a little more into rep 7 and 8.

Regardless, I think most people that could even get close to completing this workout would be the workout hero or time trialer type, although I don’t think Centro really fits the bill on that. Alan Webb might be another one who could get close to a workout like this.

george oscar bluth wrote:

High school `/ wrote:

Our usual high school track was not very good but I trained on a good cinder track a few times.

One day I ran 6x 440 in 60.3 on 3 minute starts (2' rests)

The next day with competition I ran 2:01.8 for 880 yards.

My last 220 was 28.8 so maybe I could have run under 2 minutes with different pacing.

I think that's a really good workout for 800 meters and I should have done it more often.

In addition to the pacing, maybe you could have run under 2 minutes if you hadn't run 6x440 in 60.3 the day before.

Actually it was probably 2 days, Tuesday and Thursday.

That was my best time because I ran the mile all year, and conditions were not usually that good anyway.

I have done this same workout but it was faster than mile pace, NOT faster than 800 pace. I really doubt that someone could do that many 400s at faster than 800 pace with only 2 mins rest.

Question for all: How many 400's do you think are possible at 800m pace with 2:00 recovery?

Ozzie wrote:

Question for all: How many 400's do you think are possible at 800m pace with 2:00 recovery?

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In Centrowitz' training in the build up to the Rio Olympics one session is described as:

15x200m in 25-26sec average (2min/200m jog recovery)

This implies that his 6 x 400m in 51, might have 5 mins recovery