2018 National XC rankings/predictions

Lewisville Flower Mound from Texas is top 5 in my opinion

Wayzata will be top 5.

CBA will be top 5. They have a very good program and placed 7th at NXN after losing 5 guys from the 2016 NXN team. They are returning 4 guys from the 2017 NXN team. Their #1 runner at NXN 2016 did not race at all in 2017 XC or 2018 track and he will be a senior this year. If he can get back to where he was in 2016, CBA could crack the top 3.

St. Francis isn't even close to the best team in California next year. Dana Hills is. Duh.

Dana

Great Oaks

Loyola

Dublin

St. Francis

St. Francis is way overrated.

Bang Bang wrote:

CBA will be top 5. They have a very good program and placed 7th at NXN after losing 5 guys from the 2016 NXN team. They are returning 4 guys from the 2017 NXN team. Their #1 runner at NXN 2016 did not race at all in 2017 XC or 2018 track and he will be a senior this year. If he can get back to where he was in 2016, CBA could crack the top 3.

CBA will not crack the top 10 at Nats lets not kid ourselves here

F-MSpartans wrote:

Bang Bang wrote:

CBA will be top 5. They have a very good program and placed 7th at NXN after losing 5 guys from the 2016 NXN team. They are returning 4 guys from the 2017 NXN team. Their #1 runner at NXN 2016 did not race at all in 2017 XC or 2018 track and he will be a senior this year. If he can get back to where he was in 2016, CBA could crack the top 3.

CBA will not crack the top 10 at Nats lets not kid ourselves here

Word out of jersey will be that cba ran a tt like they do every summer and it was one of the fastest ever recorded. They will he hyped as a top 3 team in the USA then not live up to the hype

Mitchslap wrote:

St. Francis isn't even close to the best team in California next year. Dana Hills is. Duh.

Dana

Great Oaks

Loyola

Dublin

St. Francis

St. Francis is way overrated.

St Francis still have a good chance to make it to NXN again.

They placed 9th at NXN last year and return 6 of their top 7

You're going to see a very competitive season next year for Texas, on the boys side (haven't really looked at the girl's).

Just some info below:

*Note, I only included figures on RETURNEES. So if it says, "5 sub 4:40" it means, 5 guys that are returning ran sub 4:40.

The Woodlands (1 XC returning running)

1st XC State

5 sub 4:40 runners returning, but only 2 sub 10:00 in track (9:17, 9:59).

Southlake Carroll (3)

2nd XC State

11 guys sub 4:40 (that are returning), but only 3 sub 10:00 athletes in track returning (9:36, 9:48, 9:54).

So on paper, neither The Woodlands or Southlake Carroll seem to be returning many XC guys, but we all know they are always filled with talent and will reload by next year. Carroll will probably have the better depth, while TWL will have a great #1.

Flower Mound returns:

8th XC State (qualified for NXN by finishing 1st at regionals)

Returns 5 from cross country.

Led by Alex Maier 8:52 PR (although he was injured this year and faltered out) and Jarrett Kirk 4:15/ 9:09

5 sub 10:00, 5 sub 4:40

1 Freshmen (4:44/9:57)

Kingwood:

6th at State

*Note, Hurricane Harvey seemed to have affected Kingwood in particular more than all of these other schools I mentioned.

Returns 6 from cross country.

Top 3 in Track and XC were: Carter Storm 4:12/9:25, Nick Majerus 4:19/9:15, Trent Nolen 4:19/9:36

Only one other returnee broke 10:00.

Smithson Valley

5th at State

Returns 7 from cross country.

3 sub 10:00 this season, 5 sub 4:40.

Katy Tompkins

4th at State

Returns 5 from cross country.

4 sub 10:00, 3 sub 4:40.

#1 4:17/9:14

Klein

7th at State

Returns 6 from cross country

4 sub 10:00, 5 sub 4:40

2 are Freshmen

Mitchslap wrote:

St. Francis isn't even close to the best team in California next year. Dana Hills is. Duh.

Dana

Great Oaks

Loyola

Dublin

St. Francis

St. Francis is way overrated.

Where did Dana Hills finish at state and NXN last year? Track times don’t mean much at Woodward. SF returns 6/7 guys to a team that finished 9th at NXN in their first try. Not sure the term overrated fits in this case. Maybe “overachiever” is more appropriate?

CA observer wrote:

Mitchslap wrote:

St. Francis isn't even close to the best team in California next year. Dana Hills is. Duh.

Dana

Great Oaks

Loyola

Dublin

St. Francis

St. Francis is way overrated.

Where did Dana Hills finish at state and NXN last year? Track times don’t mean much at Woodward. SF returns 6/7 guys to a team that finished 9th at NXN in their first try. Not sure the term overrated fits in this case. Maybe “overachiever” is more appropriate?

Dana Hills finished 3rd at state in the Division 1 race and didn’t get an at large bid for NXN. St Francis (the team that won the division 2 race) was the team that got the at large bid to NXN.

Dana Hills finished 3rd at state in the Division 1 race and didn’t get an at large bid for NXN. St Francis (the team that won the division 2 race) was the team that got the at large bid to NXN.[/quote]

Correct. Since CA uses the State meet for NXN berths, they take the top 20 teams running that day and do a "reordered" meet to determine the top 2 auto teams and which ones are 3rd and 4th for possible at large bids. SF was the third team and got the bid. They went on to beat the #2 CA team at NXN on the way to a 9th place finish overall. An earlier commenter said they were overrated, which I do not agree with at all.

Teams are all scored together, it doesn't matter which division. Teams from D2 and even D3 teams have gone to NXN through merge results despite not directly racing D1 teams.

CA 5k Returning Teams:

1 St. Francis Mountain View (CC) (CA) 139

1) Colton Colonna 15:26.10 8

2) Juan Pablo Garcia 15:31.30 15

3) Eric Eng 15:37.40 31

4) Daniel Skahill 15:42.40 40

5) Mason Elefant 15:48.80 45

Average Time: 15:37.20 Total Time: 1:18:06.00 1-5 Split: 22.70

6) Aiden Maddison 16:00.30 62

7) Spencer Schwarz 16:28.90 195

2 Great Oak High School (SS) (CA) 285

1) Gabriel Abbes 15:31.30 16

2) Chris Verdugo 15:35.50 24

3) Tyler Tickner 15:40.50 37

4) Ryan Shields 15:54.80 53

5) Cameron Hylton 16:23.00 155

Average Time: 15:49.02 Total Time: 1:19:05.10 1-5 Split: 51.70

6) Grayson Boyce 16:30.20 209

7) Joshua Abrenica 16:46.00 309

3 Dana Hills High School (SS) (CA) 345

1) Caleb Niednagel 15:26.50 9

2) Simon Fuller 15:30.60 14

3) Eddie Wagenseller 15:38.90 34

4) Carrick Denker 16:13.80 113

5) Hayden Stein 16:25.60 175

Average Time: 15:51.08 Total Time: 1:19:15.40 1-5 Split: 59.10

6) Cole Andrew 16:32.60 218

7) Garrett Hough 16:34.60 233

What about individual results?????

hsdistancerunner wrote:

What about individual results?????

Liam Anderson from California is the top returner in the nation. He got 3rd at NXN last year behind 2 people that graduated (Troutner and Hasty). He also ran an 8:52 this spring in the 3200. Right now, I think he has the best chance to win NXN individually.

Top 20 CA individuals over 5k:

1 15:03.00

LIAM ANDERSON

Redwood High School (NC)

2019

2 15:14.00

IVAN MENDEZ

Monache High (CS)

2019

3 15:14.90

KEVIN RAMOS

Rubidoux High (SS)

2019

4 15:15.50

MATT STRANGIO

Jesuit (SJ)

2020

5 15:19.70

ETHAN DANFORTH

Canyon Canyon Country (SS)

2019

6 15:24.20

GARRETT GOUGH

Nevada Union High (SJ)

2019

7 15:24.40

ALEXIS GARCIA

Newport Harbor High School (SS)

2019

8 15:24.60

HENRY SAUL

Palo Alto High School (CC)

2019

9 15:26.10

COLTON COLONNA

St. Francis Mountain View (CC)

2019

10 15:26.50

CALEB NIEDNAGEL

Dana Hills High School (SS)

2020

11 15:28.60

ANTHONY GROVER

JSerra Catholic (SS)

2020

12 15:29.00

LOIC SCOMPARIN

Dublin High School (NC)

2019

13 15:29.30

ETHAN RONK

Newbury Park High School (SS)

2019

14 15:29.80

ISAIAH SEIDMAN

West Ranch (SS)

2019

15 15:30.50

MARCUS MOTA

Stockdale High School (CS)

2019

16 15:30.60

SIMON FULLER

Dana Hills High School (SS)

2019

17 15:31.30

JUAN PABLO GARCIA

St. Francis Mountain View (CC)

2020

17 15:31.30

GABRIEL ABBES

Great Oak High School (SS)

2020

19 15:31.40

OWEN MACKENZIE

Los Altos High School (CC)

2019

20 15:31.50

JACOB STANFORD

La Costa Canyon (SD)

2019

Do you think Graydon Morris will win foot locker?

hsdistancerunner wrote:

Do you think Graydon Morris will win foot locker?

Yes

New York pre season XC top 10 lists are up on TullyRunners

Boys:

http://www.tullyrunners.com/XC2018/MattHemmerPreseason2018.htm

1. Burnt Hills

2. FM

Girls:

http://www.tullyrunners.com/XC2018/DanDohertyPreseason2018.htm

1. FM

2. Saratoga