SB runner. wrote:
Good game. Could have gone either way. DeBruyna reminds me of Dennis Bergkamp. Sublime touch.
DeBruyna is no Dennis Bergkamp.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsZkCFoqSBsSB runner. wrote:
Good game. Could have gone either way. DeBruyna reminds me of Dennis Bergkamp. Sublime touch.
DeBruyna is no Dennis Bergkamp.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsZkCFoqSBsFrance v Belgium has the potential to be a great game.
Both teams have dynamic offenses....and defensive issues....Both playing really well. I really think Courtois in the nets for Belgium could make the difference.
Scorpion_runner wrote:
next game: french vs french. every player out their will be able to understand each other, crazy.
Most players in the Belgian team are Dutch speaking, even the immigrants one
SB runner. wrote:
Good game. Could have gone either way. DeBruyna reminds me of Dennis Bergkamp. Sublime touch.
Not really. People try too hard to give Brazil praise no matter what.
they're flemish wrote:
Scorpion_runner wrote:
next game: french vs french. every player out their will be able to understand each other, crazy.
Most players in the Belgian team are Dutch speaking, even the immigrants one
6 of the 11 players that began today are French speakers (Kompany, Witsel, Fellaini, Meunier, Hazard, Lukaku). But at least Lukaku and Kompany are also very fluent in Dutch. And most Flemish are fluent in French, the best being Courtois who speaks almost perfectly French, without any accent.
So crazy for a small country like us (only 11 millions inhabitants) to reach this stage of the compétition. There are huge parties in Belgium and I'm excited to go back home this week-end (I'm currently on vacation in France).
they're flemish wrote:
Scorpion_runner wrote:
next game: french vs french. every player out their will be able to understand each other, crazy.
Most players in the Belgian team are Dutch speaking, even the immigrants one
Not true.
Lukaku speaks french and english
Hazard speaks french and english
His brother speaks french and english
De Bruyne speaks Dutch, French and English fluently.
Hell most of the players are multilingual, speaking french, english and dutch. But I hear most of them speaking french.
Thierry Henry is a frenchmen, and one of the greatest football players to every play, and his an assistant coach for Belgium, because they mainly speak french.
I've traveled through Dutch part of Belgium several times and most of them speak French and even greet you on the street in French by default. The reverse isn't so true. I have read that Romelu Lukaku speaks Dutch, French, English, Spanish, Portuguese, German, and Swahili.
Language in Belgium has always been a complicated issue. But as I said, most of the players speak both French and Dutch (except probably Hazard) and they all speak English.
That being said, I'm pretty sure Thierry Henry talks to them in English, not in French. For 2 reasons : to not upset the native Dutch speaker players (eventhough they do understand French) and because Martinez doesn't speak French nor Dutch and uses English.
Hardloper wrote:
I've traveled through Dutch part of Belgium several times and most of them speak French and even greet you on the street in French by default. The reverse isn't so true. I have read that Romelu Lukaku speaks Dutch, French, English, Spanish, Portuguese, German, and Swahili.
agreed.
Yeah, dude is a beast. Makes me feel really small as an american. Soccer players are by far the best speakers when it comes to language. They'll go into a country and learn the language within 2 years. It's because they are using parts of their brain they we are not forced to use. When you are coerced to learn something new on the fly all the time, especially a language, your brain just becomes really good at it.
Don't keep calm and support Belgium wrote:
Language in Belgium has always been a complicated issue. But as I said, most of the players speak both French and Dutch (except probably Hazard) and they all speak English.
That being said, I'm pretty sure Thierry Henry talks to them in English, not in French. For 2 reasons : to not upset the native Dutch speaker players (eventhough they do understand French) and because Martinez doesn't speak French nor Dutch and uses English.
You make a valid point.
That's crazy how they can just switch languages like that. I was reading about when the germans took over france , they would switch to speaking french on a drop of a dime to get french people to follow their commands and orders.
Hardloper wrote:
I've traveled through Dutch part of Belgium several times and most of them speak French and even greet you on the street in French by default. The reverse isn't so true. I have read that Romelu Lukaku speaks Dutch, French, English, Spanish, Portuguese, German, and Swahili.
Dutch speakers speak better French than French speakers speak Dutch. But I find that the gap is reducing those 10-15 last years. French speakers with a university degree speak beter Dutch than before. Lower educated people are still as bad in Dutch as before though.
Lukaku is a native French and maybe Swahili speaker. But he went to a Flemish highschool that his formation team (Anderlecht) has a partnership with. Same for Kompany. Both are thus very fluent in Dutch. Not the case for Hazard since he played for a French team (Lille) when he was a teenager.
Scorpion_runner wrote:
That's crazy how they can just switch languages like that. I was reading about when the germans took over france , they would switch to speaking french on a drop of a dime to get french people to follow their commands and orders.
I believe immersion is the key. Go live and work (or study) in a different country and you have no other choice, you'll learn the language very quickly. Soccer players are definitely not smarter than the other ones, it's all about the immersion in a new country. Professionals of other sports that play/work in a country with a different language also learn the language very quickly.
And you are right, once you speak 2-3 languages, your brain is trained and learns more quickly new languages. Plus, some languages are close to each other ( French and Spanish, Dutch and German,...)
True, it is normal for Americans to study a language for many years in school without ever practicing it in real life. Thus we are amazed at polyglots, not realizing that actual speaking and immersion is better than years of studying from a book.
Hardloper wrote:
True, it is normal for Americans to study a language for many years in school without ever practicing it in real life. Thus we are amazed at polyglots, not realizing that actual speaking and immersion is better than years of studying from a book.
Wait, you think that we study from books instead of engaging in immersion because we don't realize that the latter is a more effective way to learn?
we all realize this wrote:
Wait, you think that we study from books instead of engaging in immersion because we don't realize that the latter is a more effective way to learn?
Nope, lack of opportunity.
Spanish, my fourth language, is my strongest after my mother tongue, because that's the one I'm using on a daily basis.
MeHereYouWhere?! wrote:
France v Belgium has the potential to be a great game.
Both teams have dynamic offenses....and defensive issues....Both playing really well. I really think Courtois in the nets for Belgium could make the difference.
Yes, I think this will be an epic match.
loqueelvientoajuarez wrote:
we all realize this wrote:
Wait, you think that we study from books instead of engaging in immersion because we don't realize that the latter is a more effective way to learn?
Nope, lack of opportunity.
Spanish, my fourth language, is my strongest after my mother tongue, because that's the one I'm using on a daily basis.
Yeah. This is a vast country of monolingual people. It's hard to immerse any language but English. I live in one of the most heterogeneous places in the nation and it's still not easy.
? bye bye Neymar ya cheat ha ha thank you Belgium, you made me happy.?
Don't keep calm and support Belgium wrote:
Hardloper wrote:
I've traveled through Dutch part of Belgium several times and most of them speak French and even greet you on the street in French by default. The reverse isn't so true. I have read that Romelu Lukaku speaks Dutch, French, English, Spanish, Portuguese, German, and Swahili.
Dutch speakers speak better French than French speakers speak Dutch. But I find that the gap is reducing those 10-15 last years. French speakers with a university degree speak beter Dutch than before. Lower educated people are still as bad in Dutch as before though.
Lukaku is a native French and maybe Swahili speaker. But he went to a Flemish highschool that his formation team (Anderlecht) has a partnership with. Same for Kompany. Both are thus very fluent in Dutch. Not the case for Hazard since he played for a French team (Lille) when he was a teenager.
Why would Lukaku speak Swahili ? He's not east African, even in the country of his parent they don't speak this language...
I have no idea if Lukaku speaks Swahili or not, but for what it's worth I do know a number of West Africans who've immigrated to Europe and the U.S. who do speak Swahili.