Critique Edward Cheserek workout

Suboptimal wrote:

yeahh wrote:

i really enjoyed the video.

but why are you spiking up, dummy?

just came back from a calf injury.

Agreed. Poor planning there, Edward.

What spikes are those?

His coach agent seems like a nice guy but Ches needs a father figure type coach who is firm but kind who will bring him along for the long haul. He is running too hard needs. His calf issue is not well understood it will come back. I guess Skechers is not NOP resource wise.

Charlie wrote:

Ches needs a father figure type coach who is firm but kind

That would be the WORST type of coach for him.

His indoor season demonstrates Haas knows what he’s doing and can get Ches into ridiculous shape.

I though the tempo workout was actually really insightful and shows he knows what he’s doing. Ches did mention he still speaks to Andy Powell on one of the videos, so you’d assume Haas is bouncing things off them still which makes sense given Powell developed him for a number of years.

I thought this workout week was brilliant from Flotrack and gives you a great view of Flagstaff as well as the Ches / Haas setup. Hope they do more of these segments now and keep them free!

Ches was walking around at NCAAs in a boot. Does he has a stress fracture?

As a pro he obviously does nothing but run, eat and sleep. Basically he recovers fully between sessions. That is the crucial advantage that not having to earn a living away from running gives the pros..

Interesting that he doesn't seem to do anything fast yet - through day 5. The track session at the start of the week can't be considered fast for a 3:49 miler. Nothing like, say, 10x300 @60-90 seconds recovery which is what one would expect a 1500/miler to be doing.

I like the 4x 1000-600-300 session, especially the way they traded the leads. I'd love to do high school all over again (55+ years ago) and to do the same thing with my team mates. As it was, I lead ever rep, and feel that was not as productive for any of us.

The downhill 3-2-1-1 tempo run was extremely moderate, possibly because he's returning from injury. I'd expect him to easily hold that pace for 10 miles on a downhill. However he seems focused mostly on 1500/mile, and not anything longer than 5k.

The boot wrote:

Ches was walking around at NCAAs in a boot. Does he has a stress fracture?

Is this confirmed or a trash rumor?

Suboptimal wrote:

yeahh wrote:

i really enjoyed the video.

but why are you spiking up, dummy?

just came back from a calf injury.

Agreed. Poor planning there, Edward.

make up your minds letsrunners... i though it was bulky cushioned shoes that caused injuries not minimal forefoot running

Hayduke wrote:

Suboptimal wrote:

Agreed. Poor planning there, Edward.

make up your minds letsrunners... i though it was bulky cushioned shoes that caused injuries not minimal forefoot running

Clearly you've never ran in spikes, it puts extra stress on your calves.

Critique .. wrote:

I like the 4x 1000-600-300 session, especially the way they traded the leads. I'd love to do high school all over again (55+ years ago) and to do the same thing with my team mates. As it was, I lead ever rep, and feel that was not as productive for any of us.

The downhill 3-2-1-1 tempo run was extremely moderate, possibly because he's returning from injury. I'd expect him to easily hold that pace for 10 miles on a downhill. However he seems focused mostly on 1500/mile, and not anything longer than 5k.

If you watch the video he is running down for the 3, up for the 2, and down again for the 1-1. Watch which side of the road the cars are on. Pretty slight grade. He didn't seem to be working that hard, but it didn't look easy either. NCAA conversion gives about a 14 second per mile conversion to sea level for a 28:00 10k run at Flagstaff.

I saw him there wearing a boot. Call it a rumor if you want but I saw it first hand.

Remember that Mark Nenow ran 27:20 for a road 10k; and he didn't taper. In addition to that; according to him he ran about 130 miles that week.

Dans sunes wrote:

Remember that Mark Nenow ran 27:20 for a road 10k; and he didn't taper. In addition to that; according to him he ran about 130 miles that week.

That was a downhill course with the wind behind him, and he never ran any faster.

A few minor facts wrote:

Dans sunes wrote:

Remember that Mark Nenow ran 27:20 for a road 10k; and he didn't taper. In addition to that; according to him he ran about 130 miles that week.

That was a downhill course with the wind behind him, and he never ran any faster.

Actually, he did; and on an actual track. That road 27:20 was in New Orleans in 1984. He ran 27:20 on the track in Brussels in 1986- an AR for almost 15 years. Though, by all means, don't let facts get in the way. Continue on with making $hit up and passing it off as truth. That's par for the course here at letsrun- in all genres.