zxvczxcv wrote:
4:34/4:22 with a 57 last lap for 8:56 in the upper 80s is very impressive for a sophomore.
Or a senior...
zxvczxcv wrote:
4:34/4:22 with a 57 last lap for 8:56 in the upper 80s is very impressive for a sophomore.
Or a senior...
Jesuit wins again!!!!
Walt Lange again demonstrates he is the best HS coach in CA. I think that is at least 5 3200m titles plus many other top ten places by his runners in the 1600 and 3200.
I was thinking it he might be Steve Strangio's son, but I don't know anything for sure.
Steve ran for Cal Poly SLO in college, and it's a pretty rare last name...
Finally got bumped back on the list!
CAHorn wrote:
I was thinking it he might be Steve Strangio's son, but I don't know anything for sure.
Steve ran for Cal Poly SLO in college, and it's a pretty rare last name...
Indeed he is.
http://www.crosscountryexpress.com/2016/09/matt-strangio-jesuit-sjs-freshman.htmlYep. I got bumped off the top ten list awhile back.
This kids has got to be by far the youngest of the champs from Jesuit I think. Farley was a Junior when he won and probably only 17. I wonder what ages Thomas and Mastalir were when they won? They were seniors so very likely they were 18.
Yes that's Steve's son from Cal Poly San Luis Obispo how about the Davis kid that pole vault at 17-10 and hurdled 14.1
10plusdeuce wrote:
The CA state meet now is a slow, tactical affair? Would expect many sub 8:50 times out there.
Only two boys have broken 8:50 at the California State Meet in the last 30 years!
whoa wrote:
cvb wrote:
CA boys field is weak this year, especially compared to girls. That's one of the reasons a soph could win, plus temp in upper 80s.
8:56 in upper 80s is no joke!
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It was at 9:30pm though, so no sun out. It was mid-80's.
Makes me think of Mike Cybulski who won as a sophomore in 2005 but I just looked it up and his winning time was "only" 9:02.
here's the video. Strangio ran a great tactical race, in the mix the whole way, with a great last lap. Very impressive.
Norcal sweeps the 800, 1600, and 3200 for both boys and girls. How about Jason Gomez going 56,54 to run 1:50.2 or the Denner twins going 1-2 in the 3200 and 144 in the 1600 to finish second as a team. Great meet as usual.
kbkbik wrote:
More impressive a Sophomore long jumped 24-11.75
Same kid ran 8:56 and long jumped 24'11? Now that's an athlete ;)
On a serious note, what is the sophomore 3200 record for the US?
rojo wrote:
On a serious note, what is the sophomore 3200 record for the US?
8:47 I believe. Eric Hulst from 1974?
Marauder44 wrote:
Yep. I got bumped off the top ten list awhile back.
This kids has got to be by far the youngest of the champs from Jesuit I think. Farley was a Junior when he won and probably only 17. I wonder what ages Thomas and Mastalir were when they won? They were seniors so very likely they were 18.
Thomas, and Mastalir were for sure 18 when they won, Welsh was a 17 year old senior, Farley was a junior and was also 17. As for the other State champions, Stember, Reyes, were also 18 year old Seniors.
4:20/57 close. Kid is a hoss.
10plusdeuce wrote:
The CA state meet now is a slow, tactical affair? Would expect many sub 8:50 times out there.
Granted, there were less guys under 9 this year than in other years, but it wasn't because nobody wanted to push. I think only 1-2 guys in the field came in with PRs under 9 to begin with. Most of the guys that were touted as favorites were 9:02-9:05 range. The year that Schwarz won, I think there were 11 guys under 9.
For boys in CA, the up front talent was a little bit down compared to recent years. Same in cross. Nobody broke 15 at Woodward Park for the state meet this year either.
Bettingfool wrote:
Norcal sweeps the 800, 1600, and 3200 for both boys and girls. How about Jason Gomez going 56,54 to run 1:50.2 or the Denner twins going 1-2 in the 3200 and 144 in the 1600 to finish second as a team. Great meet as usual.
The CIF-SS ought to keep that in mind when scheduling their qualifying rounds. No organization does more harm to some of the best talent in the nation than the CIF-SS. It's like a turbine-driven meatgrinding machine. They the best talents in Socal up with 5 weeks straight of high stakes racing in track. Then you get another 5 weeks straight of high stakes racing for the very top talent in XC as well.
I can't imagine the generous people working in CIF mean harm, as every one you talk to really loves the sport. The physiological nonsense needs to stop. 5 championships or championship qualifying race-days/weekends in a matter of 29 days is not setting our kids up to be successful in college because many of them are broken by then. Many will be quick to say something predicable like, "if you think that's the case then it's the perfect example of kids being soft these days."
This is not about being mentally tough. It's about doing what's right for our bodies physiologically to get them to perform optimally. 5 championship races on consecutive weekends is what a coach with limited knowledge would have their athletes do. Why with so many knowledgeable coaches in our area is this still happening? Our biggest talents are being abused, albeit not with bad intent. Championship racing that takes more than 2 weekends to settle the dust needs a sort of bye-weekend of no racing in between. Thus, if 5 weekends of championship rounds are necessitated and the state meet is going to be May 25-26 you have qualifying as below.
League Finals: April 14
CIF Prelims: Apri 21
CIF Finals: May 5
Masters: May 12
State Meet: May 25-26
Congratulations to Norcal. You won because you're smarter. I applaud that.
You've got the same number of rounds as us. We do our divisional trials/finals on the same week.
The dates you gave are bogus, though.
Our schedule this year (Sac Joaquin Section)
League Finals - May 11
Divisional Trials - May 15
Divisional Finals - May 17
Masters Trials - May 25
Masters Finals - May 26
State Trials - June 1
State Finals - June 2
BTW, I saw the kid that got second puking in the trash can a solid 30 minutes after the race was over. I don't think anyone was just having a tactical jog.
Hey So Cal, you run your prelims a week apart, so you basically time trial two weeks in a row and run fresh every week, then time trial at masters to get the at large times. NCS runs back to back days a week before the state meet. In fact exactly like the state meet. Don't get to rest a week in between like SS. Prepares them for state. SS distance runners under preformed having to double back Friday and Saturday, they aren't used to it. That being said, I think every section should follow the EXACT same trials system since everyone is going for the State championship.