Unofficial 2018 D3 XC Thread (Official)

Sorry man, Williams was tempoing and Middlebury was also doing a tempo run

Okay. This needs to stop. 'Tempoing' isn't an excuse. Amherst is going to win NESCACs, followed by Midd and Williams. I hear that one of the Midd guys had apple-cinnamon oatmeal instead of his usual maple before PVC, so his regular digestion was thrown wayyyy off– had to stop midrace. One of Amherst's usual scorers was off his mark because he was rudely awoken 30 minutes early by the sound of Clark's spandex ripping from the tension of his enormous thighs. He wears those things to contain his gargantuan muscles so they don't knock around too many people during the race– believe me, I've seen them. Those honking logs look like they're covered in bark, each fiber rippling beneath that sun-deprived section of skin. I'm talking real muscle. The type that transcends us mortals, unearthing the beauty of the human figure that Michelangelo sought to replicate. That is why REAL men wear spandex under their shorts. It's for our own good and safety. Take in all those factors and you're looking at 2 teams wiping the absolute FLOOR with Williams at NESCACs– that and the fact that they're not gonna tempo again

Jared Borowsky gets 2 years probation! Heard he is already enrolled at NCC and will be competing in their next meet.

w h i t e p r i v i l e g e

Amherst is the best team in the nation. D1 , D2 , or D3, mark it now. Wait till you see Paul short

Just saying that Jamie Norton only ever tempo'd. It was always 4:06

Are the new Flotrack D3 team rankings a joke? I genuinely can't tell.

Flotrack has a very complicated formula...

Step One: Take a handful of well established teams and give them top spots

Step Two: Check results of one race

Step Three: Use top five teams from that race to fill all but one of the remaining top ten spots.

Step four: Choose one unranked team who ran well to get the final spot!

If you get lucky, your team's race may just get selected next week!

Oh, and a "special" donation could see your team move as many as five spots!

Rankings suck. Last year here's the top 10 teams at nats compared to what ustfccca had:

North Central - Finished 1st, Ranked 1st~(0)

UW-Lacrosse - Finished 2nd, Ranked 3rd~(-1)

Christopher Newport - Finished 3rd, Ranked 11th ~(-8)

Amherst - Finished 4th, Ranked 8th ~(-4)

Washington - Finished 5th, Ranked 10th~ (-5)

Pomona-Pitzer - Finished 6th, Ranked 5th~(+1)

UW-Eau Claire - Finished 7th, Ranked 17th~(-10)

Haverford - Finished 8th, Ranked 2nd~(+6)

Loras - Finished 9th, Ranked 6th~(+3)

Carleton - Finished 10th, Ranked 14th~(-4)

He will never run for NCC again!

Wow! you cracked the code that rankings don't transfer over to actual races! Where should we deliver your Nobel Peace Prize?

you can deliver it to your moms house i was there last night and will be there tonight again

nice one dude!

Those final rankings are pretty accurate, apart from Haverford, but who knew they would come down with the bubonic plague or something a week before natties. Plus its a sport, its fun to talk rankings, not everything needs to be 100% objective truth, thats why we race

? not everything will be perfect wrote:

Those final rankings are pretty accurate, apart from Haverford, but who knew they would come down with the bubonic plague or something a week before natties. Plus its a sport, its fun to talk rankings, not everything needs to be 100% objective truth, thats why we race

The rankings are accurate except for Haverford? Let's break it down.

Average total movement of the top ten: 4.2 places

Average downward movement: 5.3

Average upward movement: 3.3

Total downward movement: 32

Total upward movement: 10

From this we conclude that USTFCCCA consistently and significantly over-rated teams in the top-10.

There is a very obvious reason for this: teams that perform well in mid season races are more likely to miss their peak/be overtrained come november.

in 2016, the nationals results + pre-meet rankings were as follows:

1. NCC (1st) (+0)

2. SUNY Geneseo (2nd) (+0)

3. UW-Eau Claire (4th) (-1)

4. Washington (Mo.) (10th) (-6)

5. Claremont-Mudd-Scripps (7th) (-2)

6. UW-La Crosse (6th) (+0)

7. MIT (3rd) (+4)

8. Johns Hopkins (13th) (-5)

9. Williams (5th) (+4)

10. Loras (12th) (-2)

idk, looks pretty accurate to me, with fluctuations going in both directions. Maybe cherry picking one year isn't enough to support your conclusion, just like this years results won't support the counter-argument. Point is, the rankings seem fairly accurate with some room for error, no need to get your jimmies so rustled

That mans sure does hate rankings wrote:

in 2016, the nationals results + pre-meet rankings were as follows:

1. NCC (1st) (+0)

2. SUNY Geneseo (2nd) (+0)

3. UW-Eau Claire (4th) (-1)

4. Washington (Mo.) (10th) (-6)

5. Claremont-Mudd-Scripps (7th) (-2)

6. UW-La Crosse (6th) (+0)

7. MIT (3rd) (+4)

8. Johns Hopkins (13th) (-5)

9. Williams (5th) (+4)

10. Loras (12th) (-2)

idk, looks pretty accurate to me, with fluctuations going in both directions. Maybe cherry picking one year isn't enough to support your conclusion, just like this years results won't support the counter-argument. Point is, the rankings seem fairly accurate with some room for error, no need to get your jimmies so rustled

Wasn't upset, just pointing out that last year's pre-season rankings were not accurate. Not making a judgement on rankings in general.

Yeah man I guess your right, it's not good to cherry pick one year. I just picked last year, and that happened to be one of the worst years of prediction. Here is 2017-2010 top 10 finishing teams:

2017:

Upward rank change: +10

Downward rank change: -32

# of teams that finished at rank: 1

2016:

Upward rank change: +8

Downward rank change: -16

# of teams that finished at rank: 3

2015:

Upward rank change: +10

Downward rank change: -18

# of teams that finished at rank: 2

2014:

Upward rank change: +10

Downward rank change: -12

# of teams that finished at rank: 4

2013:

Upward rank change: +6

Downward rank change: -27

# of teams that finished at rank: 0

2012:

Upward rank change: +5

Downward rank change: -26

# of teams that finished at rank: 1

2011:

Upward rank change: +2

Downward rank change: -28

# of teams that finished at rank: 3

2010:

Upward rank change: +9

Downward rank change: -9

# of teams that finished at rank: 2

At this message this should clear up everything and officially we have beat the dead horse

The west region other than PP is a joke. CMS will blow up at nationals. UCSC has already blown up. Oxy will continue to pretend it is a national-caliber program when it is not. Regardless, the NCAA will not learn and will still probably give them an at-large bid or two. Pomona is by far the best team west of the rockies and it's not even close.