Unofficial 2018 D3 XC Thread (Official)

rkyu wrote:

im at work wrote:

even though by now most teams have had a "fast course" with "perfect conditions" under their belts?

almost no one in the northeast has. all 6 of my teams races were in the mud

I run in the Northeast and if I have to read one more post about how "all the races have been in the mud", I'm out. So unless you're trying to make our region look soft, how about you stop complaining about the fact that cross country isn't run on a rubberized surface, realize that a few tiny spots of mud add maybe 5 seconds to your time, and just admit that the region is a little slower than usual.

NorthEasternor wrote:

rkyu wrote:

almost no one in the northeast has. all 6 of my teams races were in the mud

I run in the Northeast and if I have to read one more post about how "all the races have been in the mud", I'm out. So unless you're trying to make our region look soft, how about you stop complaining about the fact that cross country isn't run on a rubberized surface, realize that a few tiny spots of mud add maybe 5 seconds to your time, and just admit that the region is a little slower than usual.

We'll see if the region is slower than usual this weekend. The NCAA certainly doesn't think so, given that 6 New England teams got bids to NCAAs.

Another Nor'easter wrote:

NorthEasternor wrote:

I run in the Northeast and if I have to read one more post about how "all the races have been in the mud", I'm out. So unless you're trying to make our region look soft, how about you stop complaining about the fact that cross country isn't run on a rubberized surface, realize that a few tiny spots of mud add maybe 5 seconds to your time, and just admit that the region is a little slower than usual.

We'll see if the region is slower than usual this weekend. The NCAA certainly doesn't think so, given that 6 New England teams got bids to NCAAs.

Because who else are they going to give bids to? The south? You want 8 MW teams there? Didn't think so.

The west region got robbed of at large bids, it was much faster and deeper than last year and are only sending 2 teams

What does everyone have against the west? wrote:

The west region got robbed of at large bids, it was much faster and deeper than last year and are only sending 2 teams

1 person under 25 minutes? Nah.

1 under 25 but many more than that with sub-25 PRs. The course and the conditions definitely affect time

What does everyone have against the west? wrote:

1 under 25 but many more than that with sub-25 PRs. The course and the conditions definitely affect time

Areeeee there perfect conditions anyyyyyywhere????

What does everyone have against the west? wrote:

The west region got robbed of at large bids, it was much faster and deeper than last year and are only sending 2 teams

UC Santa Cruz didn't race anywhere out of California, didn't beat a single nationally ranked team all season. Easy to see why they didn't get selected. Also I think the committee was getting tired of sending teams from the west only for them to be at the bottom of the field (Occidental comes to mind).

More like.... accidental

What does everyone have against the west? wrote:

1 under 25 but many more than that with sub-25 PRs. The course and the conditions definitely affect time always in any race ever

FTFY

CMS and UC Santa Cruz both ran really well, tying Pomona (who was ranked in the top 5 earlier in the season) and getting within 25 points of them. Occidental who had been ranked 4th after beating CMS at conference ran really poorly at Regionals and prenats and probably cost the region a bid.

Combined Regionals performances normalized by the pre-nationals race.

Place Athlete School Score

1 Hodkinson, Brad Washington U. 1

2 McVey, Ian Ohio Northern indv.

3 Lee, Zach Wis.-Platteville indv.

4 Buechner, Chris North Central (Ill.) 2

5 Brunnette, Sam Plymouth State indv.

6 Jones, James Bates 3

7 Schraeder, Josh Wis.-La Crosse 4

8 Hird, Zach North Central (Ill.) 5

9 MacDonald, Sean Bowdoin indv.

10 Ricciardelli, Clark Amherst 6

11 Reischling, Andy Pomona-Pitzer 7

12 Patel, Dhruvil North Central (Ill.) 8

13 O'Connor, Grant RPI 9

14 Cox, Ryan Williams 10

15 Baldonado, Al North Central (Ill.) 11

16 Schultz, Thomas Wis.-La Crosse 12

17 McAneny, Sean SUNY Geneseo 13

18 Ryan, Aidan Williams 14

19 McKenzie, Logan Berea 15

20 Christian, Paul DePauw 16

21 Kingstedt, Otto RIT 17

22 Osmulski, Matt North Central (Ill.) 18

23 Smith, Addison Calvin 19

24 Moyer, Harley Washington & Jefferson indv.

25 Herlihy, Ryan Haverford 20

26 Monahan, Kyle John Carroll indv.

27 Wysong, Trevor Bridgewater St. indv.

28 Gibson, Jeff Mary Washington indv.

29 Svetz, Matt Allegheny indv.

30 Hoffman, Max Otterbein 21

31 Nault, Tyler Wis.-La Crosse 22

32 Westcott, David Wooster indv.

33 Fassbender, David Wis.-Whitewater indv.

34 Hiegel, Robert Bridgewater (Va.) indv.

35 Mason, Scott Connecticut College indv.

36 White, Benjamin Whittier indv.

37 Watson, Patrick Stevenson indv.

38 Dodge, Tris Carleton 23

39 Hampton, Chase Otterbein 24

40 O'Connor, Sean RPI 25

41 Herrmann, Eric Dickinson indv.

42 Janusiak, Josh Lawrence indv.

43 Treacy, Patrick Wis.-Eau Claire 26

44 Christensen, Miles Claremont-Mudd-Scripps 27

45 Decker, Eli Colby indv.

46 Peet, Graham Haverford 28

47 Galligan, Liam Franciscan (Ohio) indv.

48 Mueller, Lucas Carleton 29

49 Johnson, Tyler Calvin 30

50 Batt, Zach DePauw 31

51 Perlman, Jon Middlebury 32

52 Carlson, Keith Willamette indv.

53 Gerstenbacher, Samuel Elizabethtown indv.

54 Aschale, Danny Connecticut College indv.

55 Freyaldenhoven, Toler Rhodes 33

56 Mhatre, Aaditya Carnegie Mellon 34

57 Morgan, Greg Haverford 35

58 Obroin, Michael Carnegie Mellon 36

59 Ellis, Jonathan Calvin 37

60 Brossy, Cosmo Amherst 38

61 Pinkowski, Sam Wartburg 39

62 Carson, Tanner Berea 40

63 Mah, Andrew MIT 41

64 Matteucci, Nick Washington U. 42

65 Montague, Michael Willamette indv.

66 Monaghan, Colin Puget Sound indv.

67 Kalapos, Josh Carnegie Mellon 43

68 Neura, Austin Heidelberg indv.

69 Razanauskas, Trey Case Western 44

70 Falasco, Noah RPI 45

71 Pangallozzi, Jared Johns Hopkins 46

72 Schott, Benjamin Messiah indv.

73 Ferguson, Caleb Calvin 47

74 Cutter, Ryan U. of Chicago 48

75 Phinney, Hunter Rochester indv.

76 McCarthy, Grant Washington & Jefferson indv.

77 Vasquez, Andy Nebraska Wesleyan indv.

78 Fleming, Henry Middlebury 49

79 Lucy-Speidel, Tristan Lynchburg indv.

80 McCalpin, Sam Haverford 50

81 Martin, Cole DePauw 51

82 Domanico, Joe RPI 52

83 Johnsrud, Peter Washington U. 53

84 Freiburger, Joe Wartburg 54

85 Farnham, Bradley SUNY Geneseo 55

86 Cargile, Tucker Redlands indv.

87 Ilyushev, Aleksandr Wis.-Stout 56

88 King, Andrew Johns Hopkins 57

89 Klokow, Zach Wis.-Platteville indv.

90 Meijer, Tucker Amherst 58

91 Bass, Alec Dubuque indv.

92 Singh, Andrew Carnegie Mellon 59

93 Wicker, Mason Cornell College indv.

94 Stumbo, Andrew Gustavus Adolphus indv.

95 Davis, Jacob RPI 60

96 Colosi, Paul UC Santa Cruz indv.

97 McDonald, Ethan Oneonta 61

98 Voehler, Dominic Rhodes 62

99 Meikle, Cameron Carleton 63

100 Ogetii, Dadley St. Lawrence indv.

101 Tate, Jackson SUNY Geneseo 64

102 Steinberg, Stevie Claremont-Mudd-Scripps 65

103 Velez, Estevan Amherst 66

104 Gabriel, Cuyler Cornell College indv.

105 Hearn, Adam Rhodes 67

106 Blake, Elliot Trinity (Tex.) indv.

107 Martin, Dalton Wartburg 68

108 Bach, Austin Cornell College indv.

109 Day, Price Connecticut College indv.

110 Mitchell, William Carnegie Mellon 69

111 Simpson, Clay Nebraska Wesleyan indv.

112 Sarathy, Ajay Amherst 70

113 McKenna, Nolan North Central (Ill.) 71

114 Stover, Joe Washington U. 72

115 Vielhauer, Nicholas St. Lawrence indv.

116 Appleton, Caleb Wartburg 73

117 Hall, David Case Western 74

118 Becker, Adin Pomona-Pitzer 75

119 Degroot-Lutzner, Julian Pomona-Pitzer 76

120 van Schendel, Kyril Claremont-Mudd-Scripps 77

121 Esparza, Joseph Redlands indv.

122 Weber, Lucas Wis.-Oshkosh indv.

123 Torres, Luis Emory 78

124 Singer, Chris Ithaca indv.

125 Rosenkranz, Josh MIT 79

126 McGovern, William Williams 80

127 Henderson, Theo Middlebury 81

128 Pourshalchi, Scott Johns Hopkins 82

129 Rosenau, Parker St. Thomas (Minn.) 83

130 Myers, Henry U. of Chicago 84

131 Hadden, Jacob Oglethorpe indv.

132 Hirsch, Alexander Claremont-Mudd-Scripps 85

133 Paszkeicz, Dante Pomona-Pitzer 86

134 Lief, Brian Wooster indv.

135 Roberts, Casey Wartburg 87

136 Hedrick, Jacob Hanover indv.

137 Karee, Matthew Carnegie Mellon 88

138 Elmer, Wyatt Wis.-Eau Claire 89

139 Koeman, Jamison Calvin 90

140 Dilley, Trevor Otterbein 91

141 Holtzman, Luke SUNY Geneseo 92

142 Mortensen, Patrick St. Lawrence indv.

143 Dolan, Connor Wis.-Eau Claire 93

144 Bourland, Matt Wis.-La Crosse 94

145 Chadwick, Cody Wis.-Oshkosh indv.

146 Raposo, Colin Tufts 95

147 Reaney, Brian Tufts 96

148 Lindgren, Elias Williams 97

149 Russo, Matt Rowan indv.

150 Haderle, Ben NYU indv.

151 Rankin , Nathaneal Ozarks (Ark.) indv.

152 Rust, Bart Bates 98

153 Doherty Munro, Andrew Tufts 99

154 Hannan, Chris Oneonta 100

155 Wachter, Karl St. Thomas (Minn.) 101

156 Hinz, Sam Wis.-La Crosse 102

157 Anderson, William St. Olaf 103

158 Colaizzi, Tristan Williams 104

159 Kovacs, Reid RIT 105

160 Ressler, Daniel Wis.-Stout 106

161 Wiel, Biel St. Thomas (Minn.) 107

162 Hickson, Oliver Johns Hopkins 108

163 Fields, Spencer Rhodes 109

164 Sparks, Maximillian Lynchburg indv.

165 Jones, Dylan Tufts 110

166 Bhat, Vipul Johns Hopkins 111

167 Villanueva, Jorge Lake Forest indv.

168 Norvell, Matthew North Central (Ill.) 112

169 Feigel, Evan RIT 113

170 Whetstone, Jack Emory 114

171 Varineau, Justin Calvin 115

172 Brenk, Christopher St. Olaf 116

173 Lerdall, Thomas St. Olaf 117

174 Sayre, Matthew SUNY Geneseo 118

175 Derrick, Josh MIT 119

176 Heinzman, Matt Wartburg 120

177 Palmer, Matt Oneonta 121

178 Woltz, Billy MIT 122

179 Widlansky , Ethan Pomona-Pitzer 123

180 Jaques, Henry RPI 124

181 Wilkinson, Matthew Carleton 125

182 Kloman, Jake RPI 126

183 Welch, Sean SUNY Geneseo 127

184 Levine, Justin Bates 128

185 Shaw, Bennett Emory 129

186 Thompson, Jacob Otterbein 130

187 Ehret, Jamey Otterbein 131

188 Kadrofske, Elliot St. Olaf 132

189 Roshon, Zach Case Western 133

190 Pahnke, Chris Wis.-La Crosse 134

191 Gardner, Chase U. of Chicago 135

192 Pettinga, Jacob Calvin 136

193 Karrick, Macallister St. Thomas (Minn.) 137

194 Plumb, Andrew St. Olaf 138

195 Knowlton, Harrison Middlebury 139

196 Van Grinsven, Joseph Wis.-Stout 140

197 Wischnewsky, Sam Williams 141

198 Murray, PJ Johns Hopkins 142

199 Branson, Sam Emory 143

200 Watt, David Haverford 144

201 Weigand, Spencer Case Western 145

202 O'gara, David Washington U. 146

203 Beaudry, Benjamin RIT 147

204 Iten, Ben Claremont-Mudd-Scripps 148

205 Woo, Owen Pomona-Pitzer 149

206 Peters, Kevin Johns Hopkins 150

207 Kuhlmann, Sam Wis.-Eau Claire 151

208 Lino, Herlandt RIT 152

209 Green, Andrew Case Western 153

210 PAI, NAVEEN Carnegie Mellon 154

211 Craig, Sam U. of Chicago 155

212 Akerley, Devin Oneonta 156

213 Estrada, Lucas Williams 157

214 Barber, Tucker Bates 158

215 Colt, Henry Bates 159

216 Gilson, Aidan MIT 160

217 Ellefson, Tyler Wis.-Stout 161

218 Moreland, Jamie Haverford 162

219 Ashby, Ethan Pomona-Pitzer 163

220 Bond, Landon Berea 164

221 Miller, Spencer DePauw 165

222 Friedman, Mike Wis.-Stout 166

223 Watanabe, Hiroto Tufts 167

224 Dillon, Matt Emory 168

225 Grossman, Riley SUNY Geneseo 169

226 Dellabough, Blake Oneonta 170

227 Kozlowski, Carl St. Thomas (Minn.) 171

228 Shoemaker-Allen, Zachary Wis.-La Crosse 172

229 Nakasaka, Adam Carleton 173

230 Quaroni, Marco Washington U. 174

231 Fleming, Thomas Claremont-Mudd-Scripps 175

232 Dupont, Anthony Wis.-Eau Claire 176

233 Meijer, Miles Middlebury 177

234 Ali, Ali Wartburg 178

235 D'Aquila, Matt Middlebury 179

236 Chabot, Andrew RIT 180

237 Inguanta, Phillip Oneonta 181

238 Worley, Aaron DePauw 182

239 Salgado, Sair Berea 183

240 Primozich, Sam St. Olaf 184

241 Schultz, Spencer Wis.-Stout 185

242 Knapp, Alex MIT 186

243 Furcich, Justin St. Olaf 187

244 Koenning, Tim U. of Chicago 188

245 Johnson, Nico Bates 189

246 Fusco, Mark Bates 190

247 Clevinger, Alex Otterbein 191

248 Richards, Ansel U. of Chicago 192

249 Bachmeier, David Wis.-Eau Claire 193

250 Kimball, Will Claremont-Mudd-Scripps 194

251 Horvath, Peter Tufts 195

252 Buckman, Rory Tufts 196

253 Kellogg, Ian Otterbein 197

254 Sogaard, Kristian Amherst 198

255 Williams, Zane DePauw 199

256 Kiley, Collin St. Thomas (Minn.) 200

257 Stevens, Reece Rhodes 201

258 Little, Tyler Berea 202

259 Ferguson-Dryden, Spencer Amherst 203

260 Mathews, Brian Wis.-Stout 204

261 Lavey, Stephen Carleton 205

262 Bartz, Jace Wis.-Eau Claire 206

263 Santos, Ben Carleton 207

264 Lucas, Brett Emory 208

265 Blagg, Chris Washington U. 209

266 Klein, Michael Case Western 210

267 Main, Miles DePauw 211

268 Ebent, Adam St. Thomas (Minn.) 212

269 Briant, Jared Rhodes 213

270 Ryan, Sean Oneonta 214

271 Kliewer, Andrew Emory 215

272 Slaney, Kent MIT 216

273 Hazelwood, Ben Rhodes 217

274 Papish, Thomas RIT 218

275 Andrews, Tim Case Western 219

276 Kates, Andrew U. of Chicago 220

277 Fair, Avery Berea 221

278 Michelson, Andrew Middlebury 222

279 Flege, Corbin Berea 223

Place School Score

1 North Central (Ill.) 44

2 RPI 191

3 Calvin 223

4 Wis.-La Crosse 234

5 Amherst 238

6 Carnegie Mellon 241

7 Haverford 277

8 Williams 305

9 Washington U. 314

10 Wartburg 321

11 SUNY Geneseo 342

12 Pomona-Pitzer 367

13 Otterbein 397

14 Claremont-Mudd-Scripps 402

15 Johns Hopkins 404

16 Carleton 413

17 DePauw 445

18 Rhodes 472

19 Middlebury 478

20 MIT 521

21 RIT 534

22 Wis.-Eau Claire 535

23 Bates 546

24 Case Western 549

25 Tufts 567

26 St. Thomas (Minn.) 599

27 Berea 604

28 St. Olaf 606

29 Oneonta 608

30 U. of Chicago 610

31 Wis.-Stout 629

32 Emory 632

what does "normalized" mean

What the heck does "normalized by pre-nationals race" mean???

You're telling me the kid that WON pre-nats by 15 seconds is about to get 18th? These things are jokes.

holiday hoobity whaty wrote:

You're telling me the kid that WON pre-nats by 15 seconds is about to get 18th? These things are jokes.

12th*

1. NCC

2. WUSTL

3. LAX

4. Haverford

5. Wartburg

6. Amherst

1. Amherst

2. RPI

3. Tufts

4. NCC

5. UW-Lax

6. Berea

7. Haverford

8. Wash U

9. DuPage Country Jail

10. Brandeis

Heard it here first.

Didn't realize DuPage was a country