Evan Jager is DONE!!!

I'm the first to verifiably say he would never go sub 8, I think shortly after he went 8 flat and then dialed it back at the WC, I was saying he missed his chance.

You get just one YEAR in the stratoSPHERE.

He's got an Olympic silver, WC bronze, and something like 8 of the top 10 times ever run by an American in the steeple. Settle down, man. What drives you anyway to wish for less than success for someone? That's pretty bizarre, especially if you're an American.

Precisely what kind of a jackass are you, OP ? Please describe it, in your own words.

You want to write the guy off based on one early season race that frankly was far from bad?

Do you have any other hobbies?

Weirdo alert wrote:

He's got an Olympic silver, WC bronze, and something like 8 of the top 10 times ever run by an American in the steeple. Settle down, man. What drives you anyway to wish for less than success for someone? That's pretty bizarre, especially if you're an American.

great stats but none of them dispute the OP's post. thanks for getting triggered.

umm ok wrote:

Weirdo alert wrote:

He's got an Olympic silver, WC bronze, and something like 8 of the top 10 times ever run by an American in the steeple. Settle down, man. What drives you anyway to wish for less than success for someone? That's pretty bizarre, especially if you're an American.

great stats but none of them dispute the OP's post. thanks for getting triggered.

You are both clearly the OP, and wrong.

ThatAverageRunner wrote:

umm ok wrote:

great stats but none of them dispute the OP's post. thanks for getting triggered.

You are both clearly the OP, and wrong.

OP said that jager is the "ben true" of the steeplechase. Ben True has zero wc or olympic medals and zero times in the American top 10. So i would say that he objectively refuted that point. As to whether he is "done" he didn't seem to try to address.

Off. The. Juice.

Off topic, but Ben True is the 9th fastest American in the 5k...

I agree though, True and Jager are certainly not on the same level

Told you so 2014 wrote:

Will never go sub-8:00 or win anything of note. He's the Ben True of the steeplechase...his claim to fame is being lily-white.

nothing was ever the same after the fancy bears report came out. suspcious?

bancy fears wrote:

Told you so 2014 wrote:

Will never go sub-8:00 or win anything of note. He's the Ben True of the steeplechase...his claim to fame is being lily-white.

nothing was ever the same after the fancy bears report came out. suspcious?

Silver medal before, bronze after. What a precipitous drop-off.

Jager is easily going 7:55 this year. Could even go for the WR in Monaco.

Right, that 8:01 in Monaco last year closing in 61 showed how bad his shape was.

When he ran 8 flat, Jager was showing a modicrum of initiative.

Since then he's shown none, nada, zero, zilch.

He'll never run 7:55 and probably won't break 8 minutes again.

Although he is physically capable, his lack of determination when racing makes the difference.

Do you mean break 8:01? I didn't think Jager has broken 8, but I could well be wrong. He was on track to before he hit the last steeple in Monaco I believe.

I think he could probably break 8, but it would require a different racing strategy. I read a Citius Mag article after his WC bronze that looked at Olympic silver and WC bronze tactics and they were virtually identical (

http://citiusmag.com/evan-jagers-steeplechase-bronze-medal-analysis/

). So I think he either has to hope for a fast pace from the start and hang on or take the reigns and push earlier on.

What I would really love to see is him breaking 13 in the 5,000. He ran a 13:01 a couple years ago and was clearly on the doorstep. But maybe that's in his past

Umm...you realize it’s May and a non-championship year.

Wether or not he breaks 8 minutes, he is not done, he is our best Steepler ever, and I predidt he will be in the 2020 Olympics (and probably 2024 and 2028 if he chooses to compete that long.

They weren't identical. By running 2:51 he probably felt pressured to take the lead. The second 2km of the steeplechase is normally the slower both in time trial and championship settings. That's how a 8:00 man gets outkicked by another 8:00 and 8:05 runners.

In Rio that very fast first km allows for a little bit of "rest" per say before it picks up again with a strong 2:40 final km. A more selective race from the gun if you will.

It seems like Jager panics a lot when the race slows down. I think he underestimates his own speed because he showed several times he can run a blazing fast last 800m and beat the best in the process. USA Trials, Paris 2015, Brussels 2016, Monaco 2017 they both had a very fast last km.

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