Interesting conversations at Nike next week....
Rupp, Farah, and Eliud are your starting line up at Monza.
The era of the importance of a major marathon in a big city are rapidly diminishing.
Nike is going to blow up that concept.
The WMM will be for fund raising groups, and the elites will run closed circuit type courses.
If Rupp can go 2:06 on that course, he can go 2:02 at Monza.
Mizuno fanboy wrote:
I don't know how you guys can get excited about Rupp' racing, knowing what you know. Must be he's red, white, and blue, 'cause if he were an East African the tune around here would be different.
Yaaaawn. You honestly believe that the other Americans (born or not) have blood that is any less synthetic than rupp?
3hr-marathoner wrote:
When I first saw the headline that Rupp is now a 2:06 guy, I shrugged because I figured he probably finished a minute behind the leader. 2:06 low is a good line to put on his resume but the big news is that he keeps winning. Discounting the DNF in Boston and only 3 men have beat him in his marathon career.
You can’t discount the DNF. On that day fat Marion from Inglewood ran a 6:30 thon and beat Rupp. You clueless lizard.
Hayduke wrote:
Mizuno fanboy wrote:
I don't know how you guys can get excited about Rupp' racing, knowing what you know. Must be he's red, white, and blue, 'cause if he were an East African the tune around here would be different.
Yaaaawn. You honestly believe that the other Americans (born or not) have blood that is any less synthetic than rupp?
Mizuno is correct. 100%. Hysterics on account of the whiteness of his skin. Micro boy.
Vdfjknvxfjn wrote:
Most of us equate nationality to culture, phenotype, and allegiance. I guess that’s why the white boys will root for the white boys. That is probably the very definition of racism but we are raised on these myths from a very early age.
I think you might just be retarded. It's not racist to root for someone that is "like you." Are we supposed to self hate because of who we are?
NERunner053 wrote:
Special K wrote:
Damn straight. And as American as any of us transplants. Hell of a story.
But it's hard not to expect people to think this way when this website pushes the American born narrative down our throats. Rupp ran great today. There was zero reason to write in the preview that he might go after Ryan Hall's American born record eligible time, but they did. And now, after the race, they can't just tell us he's the second fastest American of all-time. They have to write this: "It is the fastest ever marathon by an American-born athlete on a record-eligible course, as Khannouchi was born in Morocco and represented his native land until age 29."
Garbage. That is not a real statistic no matter how much you try to make it be. This is a country where the only indigenous people are Native Americans. Rupp is no more or less American than KK. KK is the American record holder. We can be excited about Rupp's run without having to get all white pride up in here.
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Oh Please wrote:
Vdfjknvxfjn wrote:
Most of us equate nationality to culture, phenotype, and allegiance. I guess that’s why the white boys will root for the white boys. That is probably the very definition of racism but we are raised on these myths from a very early age.
I think you might just be retarded. It's not racist to root for someone that is "like you." Are we supposed to self hate because of who we are?
Your reply makes it cyrstal clear that you are indeed - racist scum.
Wait!?! Rupp is white? Honestly I don’t see color.
This picture actually depicts alleged soldiers from the Army WCAP soldiers at Fort Carson training to take away slots from real Americans on US taxpayer dime.
Clueless funk nuhget wrote:
Oh Please wrote:
I think you might just be retarded. It's not racist to root for someone that is "like you." Are we supposed to self hate because of who we are?
Your reply makes it cyrstal clear that you are indeed - racist scum.
You gotta be trolling right? No one can think that is racist, right?
Oh Please wrote:
Vdfjknvxfjn wrote:
Most of us equate nationality to culture, phenotype, and allegiance. I guess that’s why the white boys will root for the white boys. That is probably the very definition of racism but we are raised on these myths from a very early age.
I think you might just be retarded. It's not racist to root for someone that is "like you." Are we supposed to self hate because of who we are?
To be honest it is a very bizarre concept if you think about it. How is Rupp 'like you'? I don't know you but Rupp was taken under the wing of a world class coach from a young age and nurtured in a world class training environment to be a champion focused on one thing and one thing only. Is that like you? What importance is a lack of melanin?
People without a racial bias just root for guys and girls they like or represent their country.
So for me, being British and on the men's side I rate Farah and Jake Wightman right now. I like Rupp, I think he's got balls. I love Jager simply for his gutsy near sub 8 a few years back and the fact he always goes for it. And I like Makhloufi because he looks like a tank running the 1500m and is the only guy willing to double up with the 800m right now. Olympic silver in both events is solid.
Things going through my epigrammatic mind as I peruse Let'sRun posts about Mr. Rupp's recent marathon earlier today:,
1. I'm not a Rupp fan, but I do think it was a solid effort/time.
2. I'm not a Rupp hater, but I understand why people are. True or not, allegations/rumors can ruin a person's reputation.
3. On Let'sRun it seems everyone is skeptical of everything/everyone...except themselves and their own skepticism.
4. If you win without running fast it seems most Let'sRun posters aren't happy.
5. If you run fast without winning it seems most Let'sRun posters aren't happy.
6. If you win, while running fast...see #3 above or most Let'sRun posters downplay the 'majorness' of the race itself.
7. Multiculturalism has ruined us, although I am not for cultural homogeneity in everything.
8. Since cultures are constantly in flux and changing, multiculturalism is really nothing more than a fallacy and/or a tautology.
9. If someone is skeptical of a foreign born athlete Let'sRun posters cry, "Racist!"
10. Racism isn't racism anymore because it seems everyone is racist, therefore all ad hominem remarks of said accusation fall flat.
11. If someone is supportive of an American "born" athlete they are vilified as 'nationalist', 'colonialists', 'supremacists', etc..
12. Any body who is supportive of any country then, is the same as their own accusations and thus the accusations, again, are moot.
Peace my fellow posters.
ex-runner wrote:
Oh Please wrote:
I think you might just be retarded. It's not racist to root for someone that is "like you." Are we supposed to self hate because of who we are?
To be honest it is a very bizarre concept if you think about it. How is Rupp 'like you'? I don't know you but Rupp was taken under the wing of a world class coach from a young age and nurtured in a world class training environment to be a champion focused on one thing and one thing only. Is that like you? What importance is a lack of melanin?
People without a racial bias just root for guys and girls they like or represent their country.
So for me, being British and on the men's side I rate Farah and Jake Wightman right now. I like Rupp, I think he's got balls. I love Jager simply for his gutsy near sub 8 a few years back and the fact he always goes for it. And I like Makhloufi because he looks like a tank running the 1500m and is the only guy willing to double up with the 800m right now. Olympic silver in both events is solid.
Stop virtue signalling you pratt. Nobody here thinks - 'oh this really a good man. I wish I could be as good as him and less of a racist'. Most people will just think you're a virtue signalling moron white middle-class moron. There is one violent schizoid coward SJW posting under multiple names that will agree with you, but the rest here just think posters like you are bellends.
Big Rupp fan here. His record over many years is fantastic. I DO think the money question is interesting. How much has Nike invested in him when you add up personal contract, altitude camps, various gizmos and therapists and medical and physio testing? Likely dwarfs the amount that has ever been invested in any other single athlete. IOC and IAAF don't have dollar investment limits, but has to make a difference.
Coevett wrote:
It was the Coevett effect. I managed to cheer him on at TWO stages of the course
Tee hee......You be a gayboy
PCFools wrote:
ex-runner wrote:
To be honest it is a very bizarre concept if you think about it. How is Rupp 'like you'? I don't know you but Rupp was taken under the wing of a world class coach from a young age and nurtured in a world class training environment to be a champion focused on one thing and one thing only. Is that like you? What importance is a lack of melanin?
People without a racial bias just root for guys and girls they like or represent their country.
So for me, being British and on the men's side I rate Farah and Jake Wightman right now. I like Rupp, I think he's got balls. I love Jager simply for his gutsy near sub 8 a few years back and the fact he always goes for it. And I like Makhloufi because he looks like a tank running the 1500m and is the only guy willing to double up with the 800m right now. Olympic silver in both events is solid.
Stop virtue signalling you pratt. Nobody here thinks - 'oh this really a good man. I wish I could be as good as him and less of a racist'. Most people will just think you're a virtue signalling moron white middle-class moron. There is one violent schizoid coward SJW posting under multiple names that will agree with you, but the rest here just think posters like you are bellends.
I'm guessing that's Coevett.
If someone can't accept my post for what it is at face value then they have serious problems. If someone can't understand that it could be truth that an athletics fan supports athletes of different colours then they are actually just a racist plain and simple.
It is weird to back athletes BECAUSE they are white or black regardless of where they are from. Like backing the Ingerbritsens as a white American just because they are white. Norwegians have a great history of doping, if you are objective. And there is nothing similar between Americans and Norwegians at all.
And I'm not White btw.
Calm down please! I like KK, I'm sure he's a really nice guy and an amazing runner but my comment has nothing whatsoever to do with one's particular genetic ancestry - its completely irrelevant. What I'm wondering is, that since "Nationality" is a socio-historical construct, should then "National Running Records", then be attributed to individuals who immigrate to any country both during and before their competitive careers? If being an "American" is nothing more then the instant second after one takes 'The Official Pledge', then it says nothing as to the meaning of what an 'American actually is' (?) I'm NOT defining it here, I'm just asking? If citizenship is a process, then the length of that process is arbitrarily determined by whatever country(s) are involved.
Official American Record Holder? wrote:
Calm down please! I like KK, I'm sure he's a really nice guy and an amazing runner but my comment has nothing whatsoever to do with one's particular genetic ancestry - its completely irrelevant. What I'm wondering is, that since "Nationality" is a socio-historical construct, should then "National Running Records", then be attributed to individuals who immigrate to any country both during and before their competitive careers? If being an "American" is nothing more then the instant second after one takes 'The Official Pledge', then it says nothing as to the meaning of what an 'American actually is' (?) I'm NOT defining it here, I'm just asking? If citizenship is a process, then the length of that process is arbitrarily determined by whatever country(s) are involved.
Seeing the a racists like you has never taken an official pledge, or passed a citizenship exam, then you are out of consideration for any national records.
Official American Record Holder? wrote:
Calm down please! I like KK, I'm sure he's a really nice guy and an amazing runner but my comment has nothing whatsoever to do with one's particular genetic ancestry - its completely irrelevant. What I'm wondering is, that since "Nationality" is a socio-historical construct, should then "National Running Records", then be attributed to individuals who immigrate to any country both during and before their competitive careers? If being an "American" is nothing more then the instant second after one takes 'The Official Pledge', then it says nothing as to the meaning of what an 'American actually is' (?) I'm NOT defining it here, I'm just asking? If citizenship is a process, then the length of that process is arbitrarily determined by whatever country(s) are involved.
I believe America as a country decided that being American is after one takes 'The Official Pledge', yes. When you are granted citizenship, you are American. Obviously.
The fact that some individuals who maybe run this site decided that the laws of the land are unimportant in determining who is American, is irrelevant.
ex-runner wrote:
Oh Please wrote:
I think you might just be retarded. It's not racist to root for someone that is "like you." Are we supposed to self hate because of who we are?
To be honest it is a very bizarre concept if you think about it. How is Rupp 'like you'? I don't know you but Rupp was taken under the wing of a world class coach from a young age and nurtured in a world class training environment to be a champion focused on one thing and one thing only. Is that like you? What importance is a lack of melanin?
People without a racial bias just root for guys and girls they like or represent their country.
So for me, being British and on the men's side I rate Farah and Jake Wightman right now. I like Rupp, I think he's got balls. I love Jager simply for his gutsy near sub 8 a few years back and the fact he always goes for it. And I like Makhloufi because he looks like a tank running the 1500m and is the only guy willing to double up with the 800m right now. Olympic silver in both events is solid.
I don't know about the person you are replying to but I am a white American, and I will tend to root for white Americans.
Rupp would be like me because he is white, and he's American on top of that. . It is not just a melanin difference and you know that. Don't be ignorant. It is a drastic DNA difference as well. It is assumed cultural/value similarities as well.
You can feel whatever you want towards Farah and Wightman, and while you can certainly be a fan of both, it does not mean those two are the same. It comes down to built in primal thought. You can supress it, or it can be supressed for you, but this thought does naturally want to connect you with someone of the same natural characteristics. I could be a fan of a non-white marathoner, but it is a different internal feeling.
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