DUCK RUNNERS SUB 3:57 FOR ONE MILE

Wow! I remember fondly watching some of those gentlemen run in the Commander's Cup when I was a wee lad. I just heard from the Commander that a couple of them are going to show up this year. Isn't it exciting!

The Brigadier wrote:

Wow! I remember fondly watching some of those gentlemen run in the Commander's Cup when I was a wee lad. I just heard from the Commander that a couple of them are going to show up this year. Isn't it exciting!

No Cadets, these guys....These guys are 5 star generals in their chosen field...

Absolutely incredible. 24 guys at 3:57 flat or under. I'd bet no other school can come close.

I remember Daggatt. He ran around Pre's time and was damn tough. Seems all those guys were damn tough on Pre's teams. Steve Bence, Kenny Moore, Paul Geis....

Lane 1 wrote:

I remember Daggatt. He ran around Pre's time and was damn tough. Seems all those guys were damn tough on Pre's teams. Steve Bence, Kenny Moore, Paul Geis....

Those early-mid 70's Duck Distance guys were def tough as nails but Moore wasn't one of them. He WAS one tough dude but he was out of UO by 1966 or so.

Lane 1 wrote:

I remember Daggatt. He ran around Pre's time and was damn tough. Seems all those guys were damn tough on Pre's teams. Steve Bence, Kenny Moore, Paul Geis....

I heard about Daggatt well before I ever put on a pair of spikes. My older brother went to the cross-town rival school, and they traded off wins, though my brother was a year younger. Scott was a 4:14 miler in High School. Oregon was a perfect match for him. My brother never ran a step after high school, but eventually went on to become a cat-1 masters bike racer. He definitely had sub-4:00 potential. Unfortunately, I had maybe 4:30 potential ( got to 4:39 training much harder).

The first invitational meet I went to, his brother Russ demolished the field with a big grin on his face. Those guys were heroic to me at that time.

Missed Will Geohegan. He ran a 3:56.24 mile last year. Chad Noelle ran 3:57.02 last year as we'll. Noelle also ran a 3:38.35 back in 2015. He should be listed on the 1500 list.

You should probably note which athletes were graduate transfers, like Gregorek and Geoghegan, since they didn't get the full Duck treatment.

C/M Runner wrote:

You should probably note which athletes were graduate transfers, like Gregorek and Geoghegan, since they didn't get the full Duck treatment.

Good point. Lots of these guys didn't spend their entire careers at UO. However that is a situation every school would have coming out with a list like this which is why I included anyone who ever donned a Duck uniform. But noting which ones weren't career Ducks would be interesting.

Phil. wrote:

C/M Runner wrote:

You should probably note which athletes were graduate transfers, like Gregorek and Geoghegan, since they didn't get the full Duck treatment.

Good point. Lots of these guys didn't spend their entire careers at UO. However that is a situation every school would have coming out with a list like this which is why I included anyone who ever donned a Duck uniform. But noting which ones weren't career Ducks would be interesting.

Just a quick glance at both the 1500 and Mile lists, of the 29 different guys listed (including ones inadvertently left off) 23 spent their entire career at Oregon. Others either transferred in as undergrads or transferred out as undergrads or came from an Ivy situation to spend a 5th year (redshirt year) there since Ivy's don't allow 5th year, redshirt years.

Phil. wrote:

Phil. wrote:

Good point. Lots of these guys didn't spend their entire careers at UO. However that is a situation every school would have coming out with a list like this which is why I included anyone who ever donned a Duck uniform. But noting which ones weren't career Ducks would be interesting.

Just a quick glance at both the 1500 and Mile lists, of the 29 different guys listed (including ones inadvertently left off) 23 spent their entire career at Oregon. Others either transferred in as undergrads or transferred out as undergrads or came from an Ivy situation to spend a 5th year (redshirt year) there since Ivy's don't allow 5th year, redshirt years.

You need to note those that only ran for Oregon but did not graduate. It makes no sense to asterisk transfers but assume non-grads are fully acceptable.

entire career wrote:

Phil. wrote:

Just a quick glance at both the 1500 and Mile lists, of the 29 different guys listed (including ones inadvertently left off) 23 spent their entire career at Oregon. Others either transferred in as undergrads or transferred out as undergrads or came from an Ivy situation to spend a 5th year (redshirt year) there since Ivy's don't allow 5th year, redshirt years.

You need to note those that only ran for Oregon but did not graduate. It makes no sense to asterisk transfers but assume non-grads are fully acceptable.

Another valid point. I know Rupp still needs a couple courses to graduate. Centro has recently completed his coursework and now has his degree, I'm told. Other than that, I'm not aware of any that haven't graduated. Input greatly appreciated.

Mile Fan wrote:

Absolutely incredible. 24 guys at 3:57 flat or under. I'd bet no other school can come close.

What about that St.Patrick's school in Kenya where brother O'Connell coache's.

That you started two threads on this in all caps encapsulates why I don’t like Oregon fans.

Blitzkrieg BLITZKRIEG wrote:

Mile Fan wrote:

Absolutely incredible. 24 guys at 3:57 flat or under. I'd bet no other school can come close.

What about that St.Patrick's school in Kenya where brother O'Connell coache's.

Man, that guy has had a boatload of amazing runners come out of his program. No doubt. But in UO's defense, of the 29 guys on both lists who have run 3:57 flat or better, only one is African and had been raised at altitude. The rest are all non-African and the vast majority of them are American citizens. I would bet the vast majority of them never trained at altitude. None of them trained at altitude while running for UO. Maybe some, like Centro, put some time in at altitude after turning pro.

Lastly, I know people joke about Oregon runners being on the juice, but I'm guessing it's mostly tongue in cheek. The African's however have been busted. Even Brother O'Connell admits it's a fact that much of Kenya's success on the world stage has been tainted because of the drug problem.