Tokyo 2020 aspirer - I will do anything i can to make it to Tokyo(Marathon) + Full training log

Vlt. wrote:

Tokyolympian wrote:

Today i'll run this workout : 3km warm-up @ 5:00/km + 20x400m @ 77s/lap with a 400m lap in 125-130s between reps + 3 km cool-down @ 5:00/km . Total : 22km

No offense, but that wouldn't even get you a place on the women's marathon team.

Well, not really. Not every workout is supposed to be very hard, this is just a moderatly-hard one. You also have to consider i'm in the middle of some decent training volume. In less than 2 months i'll go for some altitude training, the summer ahead will be gruelling. My objective is long-term, i definitely shouldn't exert myself too early.

Tokyolympian wrote:

I also have a coach, former 2:12 marathoner, i think he would be world class if he had better athletes to train.

Oh man, please don’t let this be a JS troll thread. I want to root for you OP, but if you say you recover to 120bpm during intervals this thread will be a huge disappointment.

Vlt. wrote:

Tokyolympian wrote:

Today i'll run this workout : 3km warm-up @ 5:00/km + 20x400m @ 77s/lap with a 400m lap in 125-130s between reps + 3 km cool-down @ 5:00/km . Total : 22km

No offense, but that wouldn't even get you a place on the women's marathon team.

You do the right thing not every workout must be a killer session!

Tokyolympian wrote:

I'm a pro runner from Romania and i'm determined to make it to Tokyo. I quit my job so that i can fullt commit to it. I'm going to update this thread daily with my training log. I really hope to have an impact in Tokyo and remember that one for a lifetime !

Are there any other runners in your traveling circus? Do the Japanese even allow tent-villages (I hear they can be very xenophobic)?

Oh no, please no wrote:

Tokyolympian wrote:

I also have a coach, former 2:12 marathoner, i think he would be world class if he had better athletes to train.

Oh man, please don’t let this be a JS troll thread. I want to root for you OP, but if you say you recover to 120bpm during intervals this thread will be a huge disappointment.

It has nothing to do with it. I already stated how i recover after every rep. Basically this workout is a MP practice run in small segments.

Do you have enough money to hold out until tokyo 2020 in terms of food, equipment (shoes), travel money for races, etc? If so, I don't see anything bad about this. If nothing else, you'll come away from the experience with some new prs. I'd suggest shooting for Berlin in the fall in chasing a pr.

Kvothe wrote:

Do you have enough money to hold out until tokyo 2020 in terms of food, equipment (shoes), travel money for races, etc? If so, I don't see anything bad about this. If nothing else, you'll come away from the experience with some new prs. I'd suggest shooting for Berlin in the fall in chasing a pr.

I have some, i've been a police officer until now. Eventually i will rejoin. Our athletic federation do sponsor us at times, for travelling or get good equipment, they also will provide us free accomodation this summer for some high altitude training. So mainly i need money for living, it won't be a problem.

I am yet to decide where i race this autumn. My heart says Bucharest, my head says Amsterdam, great depth as always and great weather. Next spring i'll go Rotterdam/Paris. In 2020 i might want to try Tokyo in february if i'm qualified for the OG already. I'm off for my run now.

I'm certainly not even a 15:00 5k runner but I can bang out a 20x400 with 75 second average at least with 200m rest so I feel like you should be able to run a faster pace than that.

Don’t listen to the naysayers on here. Not only about making the Olympiad, but about your workouts. Clearly every workout is part of a bigger picture and doesn’t have to be hard.

Looking at your PRs it looks like you won’t make it, but that doesn’t mean anything. Who knows how optimally you were training before. Get in the consistent training and work, listen to your coach, and train smart.

I’d also recommend posting your training on here in chunks, like a week at a time, so people don’t get frustrated about this thread constantly being bumped and so it’s easier to follow. Good luck!

Oh well somewhat ignore my previous statement but usually that's not the purpose of a 400m workout. For the marathoners that do actually do 400m workouts it's meant to boost your speed capability and not endurance at marathon pace. That's closer to the purpose of doing an up-tempo workout of something like 2x4 mile or 3x5k. If you're going to do it at that pace shouldn't you be running an extremely high volume of around 30x400 or so?

Evdawg wrote:

Oh well somewhat ignore my previous statement but usually that's not the purpose of a 400m workout. For the marathoners that do actually do 400m workouts it's meant to boost your speed capability and not endurance at marathon pace. That's closer to the purpose of doing an up-tempo workout of something like 2x4 mile or 3x5k. If you're going to do it at that pace shouldn't you be running an extremely high volume of around 30x400 or so?

Well, i've done it and before i would go in the red zone i could have done another 20x400 at this pace. The purpose was not to make it an exhaustive workout. I have enough speed, i won the 5000m national champs a few years ago. It was a nice workout with short mp intervals. This week there are harder days, a long run coming + a harder interval training.

ThatAverageRunner wrote:

Don’t listen to the naysayers on here. Not only about making the Olympiad, but about your workouts. Clearly every workout is part of a bigger picture and doesn’t have to be hard.

Looking at your PRs it looks like you won’t make it, but that doesn’t mean anything. Who knows how optimally you were training before. Get in the consistent training and work, listen to your coach, and train smart.

I’d also recommend posting your training on here in chunks, like a week at a time, so people don’t get frustrated about this thread constantly being bumped and so it’s easier to follow. Good luck!

Thanks ! Much appreciated. Time will tell but i really hope to make it with proper training + altitude training and quitting my job temporarily. I will post my training daily and at the end of each week i will post a chunk of the whole previous week. I can't post in advance.

Evdawg wrote:

I'm certainly not even a 15:00 5k runner but I can bang out a 20x400 with 75 second average at least with 200m rest so I feel like you should be able to run a faster pace than that.

Sounds like maybe he knows something you don't.

Today easy, 16 km @ 4:45 / km. Then comes a 3 day hardcore training block.

Have any of you ran Frankfurt or Amsterdam? Which one has more depth and a flatter less exposed course?

Today, moderate run. 26 km @ 4:13/Km

troll.

Would it be possible to forward your Garmin or Strava etc link for us to follow your training?

Thanks in advance.

Details Please wrote:

Would it be possible to forward your Garmin or Strava etc link for us to follow your training?

Thanks in advance.

You can follow it here. Does Kipchoge/Rupp/Moen/Shitara etc forward you a strava link? Hopefully you'll see me on television at the Olympics.