Desi's Shoes - Clearly Brooks' version of 4%

Brooks hasn't paid for a 'study' to back any claims of performance gain.

Every time you guys see a racing shoe with high stack you call it a version of the Vaporfly. The world doesn't revolve around the 4% shoes that cost 200%.

Mary Keitany runs in Adidas, fools!

Like Nike did with Hoka One One???

That guy wasn't from Brooks. It was pretty obvious he was wrong. The official Brooks instagram and Shadrack's post race interview both said they were a new prototype. Shadrack's pre-race work with the shoe was about 6 miles and some strides and he said "pretty good". "Something between a racing flat and the 4%" I think he said.

If they can make them less than $250 and last more than 100 miles, I'm interested.

pot meet kettle wrote:

Like Nike did with Hoka One One???

No one has ever run fast in Hokas, nor has anyone fast ever run in Hokas.

she only ran 2:39

get a life

4 percent rational wrote:

she only ran 2:39

get a life

And you get a pair of eyes and something that resembles a brain instead of a used kotex pad. She ran in extremely crappy weather. I bet you can’t even break 20:00 at your local 5k with perfect conditions.

Donyiyo wrote:

I bet you can’t even break 20:00 at your local 5k with perfect conditions.

This is actually what made me quit running. I couldn't break 20:00 at the local 5k with perfect conditions.

The shoe is 100% Brooks's version of the 4%. It was designed with Dathan who had already fallen in love with the 4% and he sat down with the shoe designers at Brooks with the 4% in hand. This is what has come out of that. Desi and Shadrack need to thank Dathan for this.

When BROOKS releases this shoe it should be called "The Other 96%".!!!

I don't know anything about the shoe but it looks pretty dope.

Ritz has been in different racing shoes since he started with Hansons. Good that he has had some influence.

I knew it wrote:

Ritz has been in different racing shoes since he started with Hansons. Good that he has had some influence.

And his SI joint is not happy.

Rockford Alum wrote:

The shoe is 100% Brooks's version of the 4%. It was designed with Dathan who had already fallen in love with the 4% and he sat down with the shoe designers at Brooks with the 4% in hand. This is what has come out of that. Desi and Shadrack need to thank Dathan for this.

Desi would never thank Dathan for anything. In fact, she roasted him for being at NOP. She’s too pretentious.

Chairman Mao wrote:

Is Brooks a Chinese company? Seems like they've stolen Nike's idea.

Its a foot covering.

And I had the original idea. I just never manufactured it.

Donyiyo wrote:

4 percent rational wrote:

she only ran 2:39

get a life

And you get a pair of eyes and something that resembles a brain instead of a used kotex pad. She ran in extremely crappy weather. I bet you can’t even break 20:00 at your local 5k with perfect conditions.

Clearly these shoes kept her feet comfortable, and her body warm and hydrated. It created a zone around her where the weather didn't effect her.

Magic shoes

Donyiyo wrote:

4 percent rational wrote:

she only ran 2:39

get a life

And you get a pair of eyes and something that resembles a brain instead of a used kotex pad. She ran in extremely crappy weather. I bet you can’t even break 20:00 at your local 5k with perfect conditions.

I ran faster than her at Boston this year.

eh hard to be sure, why not just ask her or Brooks if it has a spring plate or if it just has a massive stack for some weird design logic, they will either answer or avoid the question which indirectly answers the question

remember she has run Boston half a dozen times and around 2:25 each time, always in the top 10, her winning isn't unlikely, just takes her having a good day and a few others having a bad day and that was a very plausible situation this year

really don't want to see dozens of these kinds of shoes but if that's what it takes to get an outright ban, so be it (note that Hoka also had a spring plate shoe not just prototyped but ready for production and it was canned, which I give them credit on that decision, though we'll never know if it was for the "right" reasons)

www.imgur.com/WSlG6wQ.jpg

btw two notes about that photo which is likely the most detail so far

there's no way to be certain until Desi or Brooks admit it but

the diagonal split in front \ rear materials seems to match the design of the vaporfly plate which starts high in the heel and then drops low in the toe (this is the improvement Nike seems to have figured out and patented over the original Adidas insole prototype a decade ago)

and see the compression lines around the diagonal line where the foam type changes/splits? I believe there are many reports of that happening in the vaporfly because of the resistance to compression around the plate?

here's a photo from fellrnr that shoes both the same plate shape and the foam crunch lines

imgur.com/a/DLFrywy

www.imgur.com/deanHMw.jpg