Let's start a Go Fund Me and get her the prize money she deserves.
Let's start a Go Fund Me and get her the prize money she deserves.
Fair.
They are essentially two separate races. If a track meet has an invitational section and an unseeded section of the mile, I don't become the winner of the invitational race if I happen to run a faster time out of the unseeded race.
two races wrote:
Fair.
They are essentially two separate races. If a track meet has an invitational section and an unseeded section of the mile, I don't become the winner of the invitational race if I happen to run a faster time out of the unseeded race.
That said, I'm not putting this woman down by any means. Still pretty cool to run a time that put her up with the top finishers. I just can't see awarding the prize to someone who wasn't racing head-to-head with the other competitors.
two races wrote:
Fair.
They are essentially two separate races. If a track meet has an invitational section and an unseeded section of the mile, I don't become the winner of the invitational race if I happen to run a faster time out of the unseeded race.
That's a shame. I understand it but it doesn't seem quite fair.
As to your point about seeded and unseeded finals; we never had prelims for the 800 at our indoor conference meet in college. This was because it was a one day meet and no one wants to run the 800 twice in one day. So they just took the top seeds and put them in the first heat and the lower seeds in the second heat. I got second in the first heat but because it was a tactical race I got beat by 2 other people from the slow heat. So there are times when they straight up take times for the win.
A participant medal for 5th place and a story to eat lunch on for a lifetime.
Guess what the GOFundMe will total out at----
20oooplus
All about the standard wrote:
5th place Jessica Chichester will miss out on 2020 US OT Marathon by 23 seconds.
That's gotta hurt. Fair?
2:45:23 in pouring rain and a 25 mph headwind suggests she will have no problem running the OTQ on a different course and different day sometime in the next year and a half. Most likely she will even run the A standard.
Fair, but it would be a great gesture for the B.A.A to award her the prize money (while of course not displacing the 5th place finisher by gun time). Chicago did that for Wesley Korir in 2008.
Deer Brojos,
It would be awesome publicity if LR offered to pay out $15K to this woman.
It looks like six women in the top 20 were not in the Female Elite Field.
Wesley Korir was awarded fourth place prize money in the 2008 Chicago Marathon even though he started five minutes behind in the mass start.
LR marketing dept. wrote:
Brojos,
It would be awesome publicity if LR offered to pay out $15K to this woman.
No, you have got to pay her just to honor a rare feat, which Chicago did a few years back with Wesley Korir.
Yes, I agree wrote:
LR marketing dept. wrote:
Brojos,
It would be awesome publicity if LR offered to pay out $15K to this woman.
Pretty sure it wouldn't be worth the cost.
Funny how folks rationalize changing the rules after the fact.
Not only Jessica Chichester, but Veronica Jackson and Rebecca Snelson finished in the top 15 by net time. It's not fair to the women in the elite field to insert women from an essentially different race into the standings. In fact, listing them here
http://www.baa.org/top-finishers.html
while not awarding the corresponding prize money is a bit of a slap in the face. But rules are rules. These 3 runners could have followed the process to be part of the elite field and then there would be no problem, unless the B.A.A rejected their application, of course.
On the other hand, all men in wave 1 are automatically eligible for prize money since they start with the elite men and don't have to worry about following a process to get into the elite field (from which they might be rejected) and can just run their race. It looks like 3 wave 1 guys (11-13) got paid today. Seems a bit unfair, tbh.
Surprised no one has mentioned that she is coached by her brother who she calls Brochester
two races wrote:
two races wrote:
Fair.
They are essentially two separate races. If a track meet has an invitational section and an unseeded section of the mile, I don't become the winner of the invitational race if I happen to run a faster time out of the unseeded race.
That said, I'm not putting this woman down by any means. Still pretty cool to run a time that put her up with the top finishers. I just can't see awarding the prize to someone who wasn't racing head-to-head with the other competitors.
I ran most of the race close to her and there were huge packs of men all around. I didn’t exactly notice her deliberately drafting, but she certainly had advantages that the elite women around the same pace didn’t. Plus, as noted above, it’s a totally separate race - both in terms of the people around her and how the conditions were on a minute by minute basis.
For what it’s worth, they did announce her at the awards ceremony as the 5th place finisher and didn’t mention anything about her being in the non elite field. She was the only one that wasn’t at the ceremony though.
Orrrr maybe she should buy her russian friend (who i heard is a sweatheart) a new purse or something... just a suggestion (also from a toatlly unbiased third party)
Would the rules be the same if she, or another woman from wave 1, had won the whole thing? Would they be denied the prize money?
That would seem horribly unfair to me and an easy way out for the BAA or whoever pays the first place prize money.
DownhillRunner wrote:
They should give her the money. She should then bring the money to her best friends she plays poker with and then share that money evenly. That seems imminently fair to me, as a totally unbiased third party.
LOL
Runnerspb wrote:
Orrrr maybe she should buy her russian friend (who i heard is a sweatheart) a new purse or something... just a suggestion (also from a toatlly unbiased third party)
LOL LOL LOL!