The Official Sage Canaday Boston Marathon OTQ Thread

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6 years ago 04/18/2018 9:12pm EDT

re: S. Canaday

That makes sense (except the gear choice). I think Sage indeed had a shot at a Top 10 finish. #10 came in in 2:27:50. With smart racing and even pacing, I think that would have been feasible. The thing is, that's easy to say in hindsight. The fact that so many elites DNF just shows how difficult pacing was (most non-elites are not redlining). Many went out too fast, in combination with getting too cold they burned way too much energy. 40F is deceptive, if not for the crazy headwind you can easily race in a singlet, even in the rain. And in fact many did race in just a singlet (Yuki!) and did just fine, it depends on the individual.

Btw, he's saying on youtube he's planning another OTQ attempt soon, but it has to be within the next 2-3 weeks. Is a DNF at mile 18 caused by hypothermia comparable to a hard 18 mile training run? I would think it takes longer to recover, but I'm no expert.

6 years ago 04/18/2018 10:17pm EDT

re: jeebus

jeebus wrote:
Why though... wrote:
The question is, why TF did he take his jacket off? Did he think he was going to magically warm up, or that he was better than the entire elite field??
I love all you guys who weren't actually at Boston who think you know what it was like. The first few miles I actually heated up enough that I tossed my hat. I figured I'd run in 38 degrees before and I've run in the rain before, how bad can it get. I almost felt overdressed at the start and considered losing my under shirt. By mile 18 I couldn't use my hands. I was completely soaked through and any water in my shirt that might have heated up was immediately replaced by more freezing rain. I wasn't positive that my d!ck hadn't frozen off, but I was too afraid to check. My core temp was ok though and I never felt hypothermic till I finished, but the cold definitely sapped a ton of energy which I couldn't replace because there was no way I was going to be able to get a GU open. If you weren't tucked in to a group you faced the full force of a constant 30mph headwind with gusts even more intense. Then when you thought you couldn't get any wetter it would start pouring down on you even more. Sage did the smart thing. And now my stories about Boston 2018 can be even more hyperbolic given that even Sage had to drop out.

Wow, you finished a race that a guy with a pr of 2:17 mid had to drop out of! That is pretty much the epitome of toughness. Nevermind that 4 hour gallowalkers managed to finish, a sub elite with an obnoxious self promoting instagram account dnfed, so it must have been darned near impossible!

6 years ago 04/19/2018 1:22pm EDT

re: Sdfsdfsdfsdfsdfsdf

What marathon do we predict he is going to try in 2-4 weeks?

6 years ago 04/19/2018 1:44pm EDT

re: asasdfsadfsdf

A message for the haters:

Sage was running for a time. He tried, and aired on the side of caution. He can now have another shot.

When was your last sub 2:19?

6 years ago 04/19/2018 2:04pm EDT

re: Agrreed1

Agrreed1 wrote:
Agreed.. for a guy who tries to educate others, he surely makes a ton of rookie mistakes.
Like not eating during 100 mile events... not wearing right gear for weather conditions. Those are just basic things that even the most beginner runners get right.

Racing and just running a marathon are two completely different animals. In the conditions on Monday, it is easy to understand how easy it is to underestimate the impact of the cold weather as it was around 40 degrees. This isn't a mistake like forgetting to double tie your shoe laces.

He was there to race and I give him huge props for that. He could have easily hobby jogged the entire thing and what is the point of that?

6 years ago 04/19/2018 9:46pm EDT

re: BlaBla

BlaBla wrote:
jeebus wrote:
I love all you guys who weren't actually at Boston who think you know what it was like. The first few miles I actually heated up enough that I tossed my hat. I figured I'd run in 38 degrees before and I've run in the rain before, how bad can it get. I almost felt overdressed at the start and considered losing my under shirt. By mile 18 I couldn't use my hands. I was completely soaked through and any water in my shirt that might have heated up was immediately replaced by more freezing rain. I wasn't positive that my d!ck hadn't frozen off, but I was too afraid to check. My core temp was ok though and I never felt hypothermic till I finished, but the cold definitely sapped a ton of energy which I couldn't replace because there was no way I was going to be able to get a GU open. If you weren't tucked in to a group you faced the full force of a constant 30mph headwind with gusts even more intense. Then when you thought you couldn't get any wetter it would start pouring down on you even more. Sage did the smart thing. And now my stories about Boston 2018 can be even more hyperbolic given that even Sage had to drop out.
You're too soft and we don't care.

x 2

6 years ago 04/19/2018 11:34pm EDT

re: 100

Thank you Sage for "manning up" and doing a YouTube video. You did your best and did not hide from the media. Really hope you get the qualifier next time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Amb35NzdqXY

6 years ago 04/19/2018 11:40pm EDT

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6 years ago 04/20/2018 5:38am EDT

re: Otqdreamer

That interview with you and the idiot reporter was so funny. He said "100 milers, I don't get it", and things went silent, the look on your face was the funniest thing ever. You should have said "gobble gobble mf" to him, and walked away. I hope that reporter doesn't interview Bekele after his marathon world record, because he is complete crap. Bekele wouldn't take it.

6 years ago 04/20/2018 7:07am EDT

re: asasdfsadfsdf

asasdfsadfsdf wrote:
What marathon do we predict he is going to try in 2-4 weeks?

He's going to Bayshore in Traverse City. Right Sage?

Great course, great weather and I'll pace him to 25 miles, then he's on his own;)

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