New Mexico to cut athletic programs

Seriously - one of the dumbest posts I've read on LRC in a long time - and that is saying something.

I bet that only schools Hollywood TV schools USC, UCLA, Cal, and Stanford make money. The system is rigged for L.A.

NCAA DI P5 Coach,

Please stop speaking the truth. Let the blue bloods at the power 5s keep make excuses for losing to New Mexico and San Francisco at nationals.

John Utah wrote:

Franklingirl wrote:

Man, this could be a major blow to 22 year old runners in the UK.

excellent

+1

My first thought as sell.

They'll have to stay home and be punters.

NCAA DI P5 Coach wrote:

bahahaha. wrote:

10/10, post of the day.

And ya'll would suck big time if you relied on any New Mexicans to perform at an NCAA level.

True statement. Although the UNM men (under Matt Henry) did have a 9th place finish with mostly New Mexico kids, it is not sustainable. NM is a small state, population-wise, so there just isn't enough talent on a regular basis and the high school talent/depth seems to have dropped off in recent years. With some exceptions, of course.

If I was the UNM Athletic Director I would start cutting departments like the Communications Department and shop it out to Flotrack. The Sports Medicine Department can be contracted out to local medical providers. Business Administration i.e. Ticket Sales can be contracted out to business aggregators. Etc.

land of enchantment wrote:

NCAA DI P5 Coach wrote:

And ya'll would suck big time if you relied on any New Mexicans to perform at an NCAA level.

True statement. Although the UNM men (under Matt Henry) did have a 9th place finish with mostly New Mexico kids, it is not sustainable. NM is a small state, population-wise, so there just isn't enough talent on a regular basis and the high school talent/depth seems to have dropped off in recent years. With some exceptions, of course.

Funny, Colorado and Utah are not that big of states either, and yet their top teams (CU, CSU, BYU, Utah State and Air Force) are nationally competitive year in and year out almost exclusively with domestic talent. Saying you can't have a competitive program without foreign athletes is garbage. Especially in the mountain states.

To NCAA Division I Power 5 coach:

You wrote the following (see below). You are 100% incorrect. EVERY college has unique financial programs. EVERY college. In the Ivy's if your family income is under a certain level, that student goes free. In one previous college I coached at any female student from one particular county in the state could get a nursing degree free......an alum had set this up. Some schools give reciprocal in-state tuition for joining states. The list is endless.

At the University of New Mexico EVERY international student who has a certain GPA and test score will get the international academic Amigo scholarship based on availability that essentially makes that student "in-state" and in real dollars pays for about 50% of the total cost to attend. There is NO athlete on the team that gets any more academic aid than that 50% so the athletic department has to supplement that with athletic dollars if they are to get more. There is no discount.

At least try to get close to your incorrect facts.

RJC

While I find this humorous as well, you guys do realize that Joe Franklin gets these kids for a 75% discount compared to most schools right? UNM has some policy where Brits (and certain other nationalities I believe) get "in-state" tuition...then if they have over the equivalent of like a 3.0/1000+ on the SAT (or something there-abouts...it's not exactly a stringent standard), they get 50% more off their in-state tuition with an academic scholarship. So let's say the average out-of-country cost for state schools is 60k while in-state is 30k. Joe starts with a price tag of 30k for a Brit. Then he finds the not-stupid-ones and gets them for 15k - of which he has to pay out of his athletic scholarships. While most other schools would have to pay 60k out of their budget. Voila...he looks like a genius. And yes, you butt hurt New Mexican tax payers are still footing the bill for a foreigners' education...but not nearly as much as you think you are. And ya'll would suck big time if you relied on any New Mexicans to perform at an NCAA level.

New Mexico U should exit the NCAA and setup it's own TV network.

You know the Athletic Dept is in trouble when this happens:

https://twitter.com/UNMLoboXCTF/status/983145703617609728

Sounds like a sneaky way to increase the number of scholarships they have to offer. If every foreigner is automatically given a 50% academic scholarship, then he effectively is able to double the number of scholarships at his disposal by recruiting foreigners (essentially a full ride only counts as 0.5 scholarships that way). So as bad as their athletics budget looks, it is actually worse, as all the amigo scholarships aren't even included in the tally. What's truly sickening about this is it gives coaches a perverse incentive to recruit foreign / out of state talent over in state talent.

Read the study again. Football and men's basketball at most institutions turn a profit at the FBS level. It is the Olympic sports and women's sports that drag the schools into the red (which is why about only 20% of Athletic Departments turn a profit). Alabama football is big business because it funds all of the other programs at the school and drives the economy as a whole in Tuscaloosa. Additionally, there is likely far more money involved in these sports than appears in the NCAA report. As an athletic director, if you are not at a school that is making money, you are trying to find a way to make money.

This is classic LRC; call someone's posts 'dumb' but then offer no refutation at all. Not saying I agree with what Portland Hobby Jogger posted, simply that if you are going to call someone's post 'one of the dumbest posts I've read on LRC in a long time', it does seem as though you place yourself on the hook to actually enumerate why, and what you think might be better ideas. I know that's asking a lot though...

It's bloated everywhere. You have Athletic Department full time employees posting comprehensive meet and race reports on their sports websites and they only receive less that 10 looks. I know one school where they post 15 minute video interviews of seniors and top recruits with rock music, full post-production quality and they only get 10 looks. No wonder everyone is losing money. The business model is broken.

The New Mexico High School State Championships are held on UNM's track every year as are the Great Southwest Indoor and Outdoor meets. Even USATF's Senior Indoor Championships have been held on UNM's indoor track the last few years. If UNM completely cuts their track program it will be a blow to the greater track and field community, as I assume these facilities would be lost. Let's hope it doesn't come to that...