What can I run for 800m

Don't you have any races coming up? I mean jesus, you ran an 800 relatively recently (indoors) I assume. Can you not just wait until you run one in the next week or 2? Do you think your time is going to be wildly different than a standard indoor/outdoor time difference? You would know better than anyone here who only has 1 workout to go by. I would guess somewhere around 1:56, right?

the magic rat wrote:

Don't you have any races coming up? I mean jesus, you ran an 800 relatively recently (indoors) I assume. Can you not just wait until you run one in the next week or 2? Do you think your time is going to be wildly different than a standard indoor/outdoor time difference? You would know better than anyone here who only has 1 workout to go by. I would guess somewhere around 1:56, right?

I do have an 800 coming up in 2 weeks. Today did a 600m trial run In practice in 1:22.5 coming through 400 in 54.

Look at trying to break 1:54 outdoors. You should be good for 1:55 at the least.

So much of racing well is mental. You can do almost anything you want. You must believe in yourself. Believe in your training and conditioning and go out there and do it. The limits are the limits you put on yourself. You know people talk good races all day long. Then they train and fail to hit the splits they know are necessary so doubt seeps in. If you know your training is going well you know how fast you can go you don't need us. You said your goal is D1 you should have already been looking at schools and programs. The schools websites usually have qualifying times for scholarships if you really interested contact them. You should have had long term goals long ago with short term goals to reach them.

Its not too late if this is only your second year of running you clearly have natural talent. You should make up your mind where you would like to run and do what it takes to get in there. You are talented. A coach loves someone who is disciplined, committed and listens to their coaching. Also remember to be patient. Training is scientific so you can perform well and prevent injuries.

Thank you I appreciate it.

2x(6x200) w/ 30 sec. rest and 2:30 b/w sets

(29.3/33.1/31.2/29.5/29.8/28.9)

(31.3/32.7/32.9/30.3/31.8/32.4)

Tri-state qualifier wrote:

2x(6x200) w/ 30 sec. rest and 2:30 b/w sets

(29.3/33.1/31.2/29.5/29.8/28.9)

(31.3/32.7/32.9/30.3/31.8/32.4)

Why not take a full minute between each 200 if you’re training for the 800? Stupid

Hey you don’t have to call the kid stupid, however he does have a point. Maybe that workout was meant as a 1500 pace workout. What is your mile Pr?

Posthumous pig wrote:

Tri-state qualifier wrote:

2x(6x200) w/ 30 sec. rest and 2:30 b/w sets

(29.3/33.1/31.2/29.5/29.8/28.9)

(31.3/32.7/32.9/30.3/31.8/32.4)

Why not take a full minute between each 200 if you’re training for the 800? Stupid

Cx321 wrote:

Hey you don’t have to call the kid stupid, however he does have a point. Maybe that workout was meant as a 1500 pace workout. What is your mile Pr?

Posthumous pig wrote:

Why not take a full minute between each 200 if you’re training for the 800? Stupid

Can you please explain why it would be better to have a full minute of rest as opposed to 30 seconds when training for the 800, so that other people reading the post (like myself and tons of other up-and-comers on this page who are learning how to train properly) can learn from it and understand why? My intuition would say that 30 seconds is better if you are training speed endurance, which is what the 800 is, whereas 1 minute would be better if you're training pure speed since you want to go faster on each rep and need more time to recover. Thanks for explaining where my thinking is incorrect!

Idk the other poster's reasoning for the differences in rest, but heres my take:

The 30 second rest is more of a speed endurance workout. It's more about practicing running fast while very tired. Buffering lactic acid, etc. It's not necceasrily super specific to a certain pace, more as just a general workout for mid distance fitness.

The 1 minute rest is something that could more closely be done at 800m pace. These rests are also short, but not so short that you can't recover enough to run at 800m pace. So with the 1 minute rest, the workout is more specific to 800m pace. Both workouts will improve speed endurance and lactic acid buffering etc, but the 1 minute rest is sufficient enough to practice some faster running while still tired.

ThatAverageRunner wrote:

Idk the other poster's reasoning for the differences in rest, but heres my take:

The 30 second rest is more of a speed endurance workout. It's more about practicing running fast while very tired. Buffering lactic acid, etc. It's not necceasrily super specific to a certain pace, more as just a general workout for mid distance fitness.

The 1 minute rest is something that could more closely be done at 800m pace. These rests are also short, but not so short that you can't recover enough to run at 800m pace. So with the 1 minute rest, the workout is more specific to 800m pace. Both workouts will improve speed endurance and lactic acid buffering etc, but the 1 minute rest is sufficient enough to practice some faster running while still tired.

Yeah the 30 seconds rest was for it to be more of a speed endurance day as I’m kinda lacking in that department(as you can see my second set was slower!)

To answer the other guy, I believe taking a minute rest(which if you see my first post i did do 200s with a minute rest) was more geared towards my current 800m date pace.

The plan is to get stronger so that my speed endurance 200s can closer resemble my 800 pace stuff

So my next workout I’m thinking about doing 8x2x200 w/ 30 seconds rest between each and 1 min rest between sets. So essentially I’ll be doing 16 200s alternating 30/60 seconds rest between each and trying to hit 800m pace(27-29)

Actually ended up doing 2x6x200 w/ 45 seconds rest and 2 min b/w sets

(29.5/28.9/27.3/28.9/28.2/30.3) (28.8/28.8/27.6/29.7/28.2/28.5)

This one hurt a lot, especially with one way being very windy. That 30 on the last set should have been quicker I kinda zoned out a lil and fell off the pace a little. Second set hurt but i just tried to take it one at a time after the 3rd one I wasn’t sure I would finish 6 but I got it done

Today I did 16x200 w/ 30 seconds rest:

(37.1/34.2/32.1/33.3/31.8/32.4/33.0/32.7)(32.7/32.8/32.6/32.8/32.2/32.7/32.3/30.2)

Was rained on the entire time so that wasn’t fun. Felt pretty tired around #10 but I kept knocking them out one by one. Definitely was tough aerobically.

Just an update: had a workout yesterday, I’m not sure if it went well. I felt pretty sore and tired from the past couple days with heavy weights session.

Anyways my workout was (600-400-300) w/ 6 min rest and 4 min rest. After the 300 I took about 6-7 min to put spikes on cuz I had flats on and the track was very slippery.

Then I did 4x200 w/ 3min rest. These all would feel good til the last 50m. My legs were full of lactic after the 6-4-3. After the 4 200s I took 6 min rest and did one more 200.

Splits (1:29.0, 57.1, 42.0) (26.2, 26.8, 26.9, 26.8) (25.5)

I think i just had an off day but hopefully a couple easy days will help get me ready for my race this weekend.

I would have liked to see the 200s in the 28s and even some 27s on those earlier workouts, if you want to hit 1:55. I like your last workout but it might have been too hard in that those other workouts were between 800 pace and 1500 pace. My point is you should be hitting some goal 800 pace and faster earlier in the season.

Run Around wrote:

I would have liked to see the 200s in the 28s and even some 27s on those earlier workouts, if you want to hit 1:55. I like your last workout but it might have been too hard in that those other workouts were between 800 pace and 1500 pace. My point is you should be hitting some goal 800 pace and faster earlier in the season.

The first workout this kid posted has a ton of 28s and a 27 off of 1 min rest. I would think this is the kids goal pace . So roughly aiming for 1:52-1:54 I assume.

Bump

Tri-state qualifier wrote:

Just an update: had a workout yesterday, I’m not sure if it went well. I felt pretty sore and tired from the past couple days with heavy weights session.

Anyways my workout was (600-400-300) w/ 6 min rest and 4 min rest. After the 300 I took about 6-7 min to put spikes on cuz I had flats on and the track was very slippery.

Then I did 4x200 w/ 3min rest. These all would feel good til the last 50m. My legs were full of lactic after the 6-4-3. After the 4 200s I took 6 min rest and did one more 200.

Splits (1:29.0, 57.1, 42.0) (26.2, 26.8, 26.9, 26.8) (25.5)

I think i just had an off day but hopefully a couple easy days will help get me ready for my race this weekend.

This is a pretty nice workout. There is a lot of rest and I’d like to see those earlier repeats slightly faster (600 and 400) but it’s still solid for sure. Especially those 200s after. If you can put together a nice smart race then you’ll have some fast times coming your way. Sub 1:54 isn’t out of the question but depends on how well you race

Update: raced last weekend: felt great coming through 600 n 1:23 but then hit the wall with 100 to go ended up running 1:53 high. Big PR for me but I want more.

Yesterday I did 6 50m hill sprints all out in flats then 5x 60m sprints on the track in spikes

Today my hamstrings and adductors were so sore!!!

But still had a workout

8x200 w/ 1 min rest; 5 min rest; 2x200 w/ 3 min rest

(29.9/29.7/27.9/27.7/27.2/28.8/28.2/28.2)

(25.0/25.2)

After the 4th my legs were feeling heavy from the soreness. Must of checked out a lil on the 6th one, then the 7th and 8th thought for sure would be sub 28 but legs lacked the power I guess yesterday’s sprints kinda shot my legs but it’s all good. Felt good on the fast 200s but again lacked power so had to rely on turnover so they weren’t as smooth as I would have liked. Another race coming in less than 2 weeks will see how it goes. Input?