Wrong!!! wrote:
If I were to use emotion, I see your emotion. High T-level is more than a rumor with Semenya. Not a fact with Wambui nor with Niyonsaba. Do understand the counter argument? Is the man with highest T-level in your county or town also the fastest 800m runner in your county or town? If not, there are other factors beside T-level for 800m athletes. Deciding that a forced depressant or mandatory lowering of Semenya's natural T-level is what is required is troubling. Even if Semenya's T-level is reduced, Semenya has muscle memory for elite 800m performances.
Look you make some fair and interesting arguments from a theoretical perspective. The idea that Semenya & Co have had years of extra testosterone gives them an advantage, as well as a masculine bone structure. Niyonsaba might not be intersex but we'll see, might be doping.
From what I gather Wambui was on ADT
PERFORMANCE PLACE DATE
2018 1:59.54 Nairobi (KEN) 17 FEB 2018
2017 1:56.87 Zürich (SUI) 24 AUG 2017
2016 1:56.89 Rio de Janeiro (BRA) 20 AUG 2016
2015 2:01.32 Eugene (USA) 29 MAY 2015
2014 2:00.49 Eugene (USA) 24 JUL 2014
After Dutee Chand won her (or his) 2015 CAS case Wambui no longer had to keep levels down, see the jump in performance. The same with Caster
PERFORMANCE PLACE DATE
2018 1:57.80 Pretoria (RSA) 17 MAR 2018
2017 1:55.16 London (GBR) 13 AUG 2017
2016 1:55.28 Rio de Janeiro (BRA) 20 AUG 2016
2015 1:59.59 Beijing (CHN) 26 AUG 2015
2014 2:02.66 Roma (ITA) 05 JUN 2014
2013 1:58.92 Rieti (ITA) 08 SEP 2013
Or
2018 51.84 Pretoria (RSA) 10 FEB 2018
2017 51.53 Rabat (MAR) 16 JUL 2017
2016 50.40 Bruxelles (BEL) 09 SEP 2016
2015 53.12 Nové Město nad Metují (CZE) 25 JUL 2015
2014 55.33 Pretoria (RSA) 14 MAR 2014
2012 53.62 Bellville (RSA) 03 MAR 2012
2011 52.54 Germiston (RSA) 26 MAR 2011
Or
2018 4:00.71 Gold Coast (AUS) 10 APR 2018
2017 4:02.84 London (GBR) 04 AUG 2017
2016 4:01.99 Durban (RSA) 24 JUN 2016
2015 4:21.63 Stellenbosch (RSA) 24 APR 2015
2011 4:12.93 Durban (RSA) 10 APR 2011
2009 4:08.01 Bambous (MRI) 02 AUG 2009
2008 4:33.25 Rustenburg (RSA) 29 MAR 2008
This even more startling, it is all about testosterone, I have seen alot of prostate cancer patients up close and ADT weakens them.