I know this is a troll thread but seriously, what a pu$$y move. It's a race!! He's trying to give himself the best chance of winning. You know these guys have already lost if they're getting mad and pointing at the ground like this.
I hardly think Rupp cares what other runners have to think his racing style as long as he's beating them.
I agree with the OP. In fact, this is why I don't go to football games anymore. I was constantly shouting "hey cornerback, can't you see that the wide receiver doesn't like your style? You're not helping at all! You guys need to share the work!" Apparently I'm the only sports fan who still believes in sportsmanship.
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I fixed your subject for you.
I've never run competitively. If some guy's up your ass like this, what's the strategy here? Can the lead man do a break check and immediately slow down or is that too risky?
biogen wrote:
I've never run competitively. If some guy's up your ass like this, what's the strategy here? Can the lead man do a break check and immediately slow down or is that too risky?
A break check sounds more like speeding up.
biogen wrote:
I've never run competitively. If some guy's up your ass like this, what's the strategy here? Can the lead man do a break check and immediately slow down or is that too risky?
Just keep running your race.
Track guys manage to run with someone on their shoulder. Not sure why road racers feel like they need a giant bubble of personal space when 800m guys run ~3:30 mile pace in a tight pack.
biogen wrote:
I've never run competitively. If some guy's up your ass like this, what's the strategy here? Can the lead man do a break check and immediately slow down or is that too risky?
Craig Virgin tried it against Miruts Yifter in the 1979 World Cup 10000. Skip to 5:30 or so in the video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YB8hEc3yIwEYears ago I was running a half marathon and by 11 miles knew I was having a great race. I passed a guy I had been gaining steadily on and knew he wouldn't be able to stay with me very long. As soon as I passed, he sped up right on my heals and all I could think was that he was going to clip my shoe and ruin my race. I started running side to side on the road until I lost him. I think he was the one a little upset after the race.
The leading runner is not tired when they do this, they are irritated. Rupp did this to Kirui and when he did kept staying so tight behind him, Kirui surged forward to beat Rupp to 2nd at Last year's Boston.
Farah does the same thing. He prints the last lap or K.
A winning tactic is a winning tactic. Other runner just have to find a way to beat Rupp and Farah.
This tactic does little to improve the quality of times at races though. Farah dominated 5k and 10k on track but he ranks 28th and 64th respectively on the all time best list. Not common for a dominant character in the history of the sport.
do you see the british complaining because mo farah usually sits on opponents and then unleashes a kick to win gold medals from 400 to 600 meters out ? why is it here in the USA that we complain about winning race tactics when they are used by a runner we don't like? on the other hand his tactics did not slow him down based on results? just admit it, he is the best male runner of the current generation in the US by a mile. enjoy it as it may be a long time before another comes along. i hope in boston he uses the same tactics as that is how boston is often won.
Rupp ran with Tanui in Boston 2017.
Tanui decided to drop his --- like a bad habit and that was that.
If first place didn't like Rupp's racing on his shoulder then he should drop him.
or just do what Geoffrey Tanui did wrote:
Rupp ran with Tanui in Boston 2017.
No he didn’t.
Hehehds wrote:
That smelly runt sure as sh!t was pointing at the ground the last 3 miles lol.
Stay classy
MeHereYouWhere?! wrote:
From the video at the 2:42 mark to about 2:50
Here's an image to Kemei pointing at the ground/side
https://ibb.co/bOGNpc
Dude, watch it again at the 3:08 mark to about 3:15. He's doing the same thing to Rupp. Do you think, maybe, he was gestering to Rupp to come up and help him push the pace, rather than telling him to get out of his slipstream? Based on the next part of the video, maybe they were helping each other, sharing the pace? Idk.
https://youtu.be/N87HllHAfbI?t=3m08sLosing is never fun.... wrote:
Years ago I was running a half marathon and by 11 miles knew I was having a great race. I passed a guy I had been gaining steadily on and knew he wouldn't be able to stay with me very long. As soon as I passed, he sped up right on my heals and all I could think was that he was going to clip my shoe and ruin my race. I started running side to side on the road until I lost him. I think he was the one a little upset after the race.
Reminds me of a race where a guy was dying at 2.5 miles into the 5K. I was having a lousy race myself but I caught up to him and he starts asking me what age group I was in and asking for me to sprint with him to the finish. Why he was spending more time trying to talk to me instead of trying to focus on a race that is essentially all out for the last mile - I have no clue.
Everytime I sped up he starts pushing the pace. After he was able to get in front of me he started weaving and impeding on my space to make sure I wouldn't pass him. Being that I was very far off from a PR, I just let him go. Neither one of us were breaking 18 that day regardless and I didn't want to get into some verbal altercation (or push him out of the way) in a family-friendly 5K for charity.
Why people treat meaningless races like the Super Bowl I'll never understand.
Go to the 3-minute mark in the video where Kemei is running in the EXACT SAME SPOT behind Rupp.
There is nothing wrong with running behind someone. EVERYONE does it. MEB does it. It's called a race for a reason.
nottalotta wrote:
Go to the 3-minute mark in the video where Kemei is running in the EXACT SAME SPOT behind Rupp.
There is nothing wrong with running behind someone. EVERYONE does it. MEB does it. It's called a race for a reason.
Why are you yelling? No one is disagreeing with you.
So what would people do here in terms of tactics if this were happening to you with a competitor riding your tail?
Ignore and run your own race. It's not like he's impeedign you.
Play games and slow down....get behind him?
Surge?
Drop back so you're shoulder to shoulder?
Depends on who it is i guess. Your strengths vs. his. But what if you don't really know his situation.
I like this part of racing.
When I’m racing, someone getting on my shoulder is all part of it. I don’t like it, but it’s part of racing. But what I hate is when out on a run and you pass someone and they speed up to stay on you. Why do people do that?
Losing is never fun.... wrote:
Years ago I was running a half marathon and by 11 miles knew I was having a great race. I passed a guy I had been gaining steadily on and knew he wouldn't be able to stay with me very long. As soon as I passed, he sped up right on my heals and all I could think was that he was going to clip my shoe and ruin my race. I started running side to side on the road until I lost him. I think he was the one a little upset after the race.
This may be applicable.
there's a difference between taking turns sharing the lead or pushing the pace, or even just taking advantage of someone else who does.. vs someone running so tight on your a$$ that it affects your stride.