SAGE: can you do a video about breaking 3 hours on 60-70 mpw for hobby jogger?

sdfasdfasdfdf wrote:

I have watched every video you have made and you are the man! The other sub-3 marathon videos are good but I could use something really tailored for a 40 year old hobby jogger with a PR of 3:03:30 trying to shave off those last 3 minutes and change. Can you give specific workouts for someone like me maxing out at 60-70 miles per week? Thanks man.

What's wrong with the "other sub-3 marathon videos"? What's so unique about your situation?

Max out at 70-80mpw instead of 60-70, Problem solved.

Sage is also a coach. So if you want all the specifics and workouts on your particular case, you could hire him to be your coach.

forhire wrote:

Sage is also a coach. So if you want all the specifics and workouts on your particular case, you could hire him to be your coach.

He has plans you can download but I don't think he has actual coaching. If that's not true, PM me Sage.

The problem with Sage's other sub-3 marathon videos is that he tries to broaden it out to other BQ type attempts. I want something that is solely focused on 2:59:59, not 3:10, 3:20, 2:50, or whatever else. Tell me what to run for tempo, what pace I should run my long runs at, etc.

you're welcome there wrote:

What's wrong with the "other sub-3 marathon videos"? What's so unique about your situation?

1) I'm a special snowflake.

2) The other videos branch out to other goals (i.e. BQ attempts at 3:10, etc.). I want something super-specific.

Mods,

Why are we deleting Sage threads. He's a popular dude in running.

btw, With a time of 3:03 in the marathon, you are not a hobby jogger. That is not even close to hobby jogging, so give yourself some credit and confidence, and I'm sure you will go sub 3.

sdfasdfasdfdf wrote:

you're welcome there wrote:

What's wrong with the "other sub-3 marathon videos"? What's so unique about your situation?

1) I'm a special snowflake.

2) The other videos branch out to other goals (i.e. BQ attempts at 3:10, etc.). I want something super-specific.

That wasn't me, it was somebody hijacking my name. I think they included number two so that it would sound more like me.

Speaking of number 2, i didnt want to bring it up in this thread unless Sage was actually here, because it is a little embarrassing, but that is what I was going to ask him to include in his video: strategies on a mid marathon #2 for a 40 year old hobby jogger running 2:59:59. In the 7 marathons I have done in the past 3 years, every one of them I was almost derailed by my attempts to push through (sh)it.

I'm hoping he could include both strategies on how to possibly move things along sooner on a brutally early marathon start. As a backup, I was hoping he could suggest a good BQ course that has plenty of port-a-jons around mile 18, for a 2:59:59 40 year old male hobby jogger.

Wtf. That wasn't me. What a bizarre post. Maybe I should have registered this name so people couldnt pretend they were me.

Mostly I just wanted Sage to make a video specifically about a 2:59 male 40 year old hobby jogger, because I am one of those, and I really like Sage, so it would make me feel good about myself if he did it. I just want Sage to make me feel special in a way I think only Sage could do.

Who wrote all of these posts pretending they were me? Some people have way too much time on their hands.

Sage, this is the real me. The reason I am hoping you could make a video specific to a 49 year old male 2:59 hobby jogger is because I'm having trouble understanding how to adapt some of the paces in your standard marathon training charts.

For example, for a 3:05 marathon runner, in your phase 3, lactophosphate creatinase mid tempo day in week two, you suggest a pace of LTC pace minus 2.2km per hour of specific intensity above your key metric heart velocity pace, and say the time of the workout should last 45 minutes plus (number of marathons run times 3) minutes.

However, for a 2:55 marathoner, you suggest LTC pace minus 2.0km per hour and that the workout should last 50 minutes plus (number of marathons run time 3) minutes.

However, you didnt provide a method of interpolating. Or do you suggest that I use the pace from the 3:05 group, but the length of workout from the 2:55 group? Or would the reverse make more sense? Or should something of a combination be used?

Oh jeez... who wrote all this mindless drivel?

Real OP here. Sage, please ignore all of this above. As a 40 year old hobby jogger male hoping to improve by 3 minutes to get under 3 hours, I just was hoping that you could tell me what pace my LT workouts should be at, and if I should aim for the lower end of the number of 2 mile repeats you recommend 3 months before race day.

Scorpion_runner wrote:

btw, With a time of 3:03 in the marathon, you are not a hobby jogger. That is not even close to hobby jogging, so give yourself some credit and confidence, and I'm sure you will go sub 3.

Thanks! I hope you are right!

Sage, as an over 40 marathon RUNNER going for under 3 hours, can you recommend a specific formulation of Centrum Silver daily vitamin? I cant figure out if I should use the "Active," the "power," "men's health," "prostate power," or "Vitality" version. My local pharmacy only has Vitality and "Men's Health," but if you think the prostate power version is more appropriate, please include that in your video, I called a walgreens over in Kennisaw and they had 2 bottles left in stock, so I'm leaving now to go pick some up, just in case.

I'll check this thread on the road, so if you see it in the next four hours and think I dont need that version, post and I'll turn around to save the drive, or whatever portion of the four hours is left.

rojo wrote:

Mods,

Why are we deleting Sage threads. He's a popular dude in running.

I know, right? He is the man! As a 49 year old hobby jogger trying to go under 3 hours for the first time, no other running vlogger even comes close!

Which was your favorite episode, Rojo? Mine was episode 2,347, the one where he described his final four miles of his 29 mile long run on green mountain. Of course the episode 2,343 definitely had the best visuals from that series, since it covered miles 8 through 13 of that run, which everybody in my over 40 hobby jogger friday night group agrees are the best portion of that run.

My thursday night running group mostly prefers the later episodes that Sage did, though, right before he spun off his cooking vlog (A Pinch of Sage), when he was really mixing it up between the running visuals, cowboy/running poetry, and vegan cooking. I do kind of understand where they are coming from, I do miss listening to him describe how be massages his soy milk into the dried tofu powder before adding in the chicory root when making his daily pre run smoothie. What a cool ritual to open the first episode in each long run's 9 piece series!

But I digress, which episode was your favorite, Rojo, and why?

A Typical LRC Idiot wrote:

Max out at 70-80mpw instead of 60-70, Problem solved.

As a 40 year old hobby jogger trying to run 2:59:59 (my PR is 3:03), I've already figured out that I can't run more than 70mpw. I tried multiple times to push to a higher mileage, but I got wicked cold sores.

Wait until you get to my age and you'll understand my pain. It is brutal. You'll end up needing to take as much as a month off while you wait for this issue to clear up. Meanwhile you're back to square one with the training.

I watched Sage's video (he is the man!) on this issue, but if didn't seem to help, so I remain stuck at my hobby jogger mileage.

sdfasdfasdfdf wrote:

A Typical LRC Idiot wrote:

Max out at 70-80mpw instead of 60-70, Problem solved.

As a 40 year old hobby jogger trying to run 2:59:59 (my PR is 3:03), I've already figured out that I can't run more than 70mpw. I tried multiple times to push to a higher mileage, but I got wicked cold sores.

Wait until you get to my age and you'll understand my pain. It is brutal. You'll end up needing to take as much as a month off while you wait for this issue to clear up. Meanwhile you're back to square one with the training.

I watched Sage's video (he is the man!) on this issue, but if didn't seem to help, so I remain stuck at my hobby jogger mileage.

Whoa! Who hijacked my thread and wrote this post? They're totally wrong about why I can't run over 70mpw. I just dont have time to run that many miles. That is why i range from 60 to 70 miles. Some weeks, I have more time and run 70.

But between my job and Sage's videos, there are weeks where I only get in 60 mpw. I used to be able to get more mileage in, because I would download Sage's videos to my google glasses and watch them while running (thumbs up if you're reading this and are right eye dominant!). But then my wife caught me replacing her face with Sage's face in the HUD AR mode and broke them, so now I have to watch the videos during the kid's soccer games and school plays and other things that used to distract me from my goals.

Seriously, google glasses was such a time saver. It was really cool how you could adjust the opacity of a video so you could still see where you were running through the video. Of course, with Sage's videos, I always watched on maximum density, since I didnt want to miss any details (he is the man!).

lol

SAGE: Please ignore all these other morans pretending to be me. I'm a big fan of yours and your videos, but it seems like there's nothing specifically targeting people like me. My goal is exactly 3 hours and I really can't do more than 60-70 miles a week - it would be great to get a custom plan from you! I hope this doesn't sound weird, but so I really know you're doing this for me, can you touch your left nipple while talking to the camera and say my name.

I'd also really like to buy the shorts and socks you wear in the video - just name your price!

Thanks man.

Do you see what happens when you don't require people to register usernames?

Hilarious! I can relate.