He has a ways to go as a collegiate sprinter to match these numbers:
Personal best(s)
60m: 6.74 s (Fayetteville 2005)
100m: 10.00 s (Eugene 2008)
200m: 19.63 s (Lausanne 2006)
400m: 44.53 s (Sacramento 2006)
But what an upside!
He has a ways to go as a collegiate sprinter to match these numbers:
Personal best(s)
60m: 6.74 s (Fayetteville 2005)
100m: 10.00 s (Eugene 2008)
200m: 19.63 s (Lausanne 2006)
400m: 44.53 s (Sacramento 2006)
But what an upside!
YMMV wrote:
He has a ways to go as a collegiate sprinter to match these numbers:
Personal best(s)
60m: 6.74 s (Fayetteville 2005)
100m: 10.00 s (Eugene 2008)
200m: 19.63 s (Lausanne 2006)
400m: 44.53 s (Sacramento 2006)
But what an upside!
X-Man was awesome. Shame he couldn't stay out of trouble off the track.
man who knows wrote:
Again, inside info here... He would be above average for a multi guy in the throws if he spent time on the technique. He has literally no desire to pole vault. As for the 1500, well, let's just say anything over a 400 is kind of a stretch. I've been on "long" runs of less than 20 minutes with him and it wasn't pretty. It did feel good to out-kick one of the fastest sprinters on the planet, though.
I'm curious why you say that? Based only on his results from the indoor pent he did in 2016, his shotput was pretty lackluster considering how explosive he is. 41 feet with the 12 pound shot is better than the average distance runner would do, but I would expect the majority of sub 11 sprinters to be able to do that on their first day of attempting it, and presumably Holloway had at least a few days of technique work prior to doing that pent.
Learning the discus is much harder than the shotput and a lot more dependent on form than pure explosiveness. Likewise Javelin and pole vault are a long road, and some otherwise very athletic people just never seem to "get it."
I think Holloway is a phenomenal athlete, obviously being one of the best in the world in a few events speaks for itself. But based soley on his one shotput result, I'm skeptical of your claim. If being elite at LJ/110H/400m/HJ was enough to become elite at the decathlon, there would be other athletes deciding they were tired of being third or fourth best in the world at the LJ/110H making the switch, since they're better at those core events than Eaton, but they aren't.
The better question to ask is will he be a bigger “star” then Eaton was? Of course he will! He runs marquee events that are shown in full on tv and gives great interviews. Ashton is the worlds greatest athlete, but the deca is not a household name event. Holloway will garner interest especially if he sticks with jumping. Sort of a Michael Johnson but Carl Lewis jumper combo. This kid could run sub 13, sub 44,and jump really far! That makes this track fan excited.
vivalarepublica wrote:
Vvtfvgttfftff wrote:
Did you miss the fact that he jumped 2m16 in HS?
...and that he split 44.91 in the relay today?
Yes, I did miss that. Thanks.
So Grant Holloway can ball in the hurdles, 100m, 400m, long jump, and high jump. That's 5 events right there.
But we have no idea what he could do in the pole vault, shotput, discus, javelin, and 1500m. He's pretty jacked, so theoretically that would help for the throws, but there is still plenty of technique to refine. And who knows for the pole vault and 1500m.
He ran the 800m at NBNI in high school and looked ROUGH by the end of it, I doubt he would be able to translate success to the 1500m
Well, he did run 2:51 for the 1000m in HS. That’s about 6 seconds faster than the NCAA heptathlon winner last weekend. But yes, he is no Ashton Eaton over 1000m. Still not bad for HS.
He also has a 12m58 SP (12 pounds) to his credit in HS, so it’s not completely crap. But again, no Ashton Eaton.
His real problem would be at the PV (I think)
What’s really crazy is that he was already jumping 2m11 in grade 9!!!!!
This workout was a week earlier
Competing in individual events is one thing. Try doing it at a World Champ or Olympic Games. Up at 5:30am, on your feet either warming up, competing or cooling down till around 9:30pm. Up again at 5:30am, same day as the first day. Those meets are exhausting both physically as well as mentally. Holloway is terrific, I’d love to see him try a decathlon.
vivalarepublica wrote:
Vvtfvgttfftff wrote:
Did you miss the fact that he jumped 2m16 in HS?
...and that he split 44.91 in the relay today?
Yes, I did miss that. Thanks.
So Grant Holloway can ball in the hurdles, 100m, 400m, long jump, and high jump. That's 5 events right there.
But we have no idea what he could do in the pole vault, shotput, discus, javelin, and 1500m. He's pretty jacked, so theoretically that would help for the throws, but there is still plenty of technique to refine. And who knows for the pole vault and 1500m.
Yeah, I pretty much have beating Ashton in 6-8 events easily.
Pole vault & 1500 might be the difference maker though.
Multiman10 wrote:
Competing in individual events is one thing. Try doing it at a World Champ or Olympic Games. Up at 5:30am, on your feet either warming up, competing or cooling down till around 9:30pm. Up again at 5:30am, same day as the first day. Those meets are exhausting both physically as well as mentally. Holloway is terrific, I’d love to see him try a decathlon.
I feel like the deca would be a distraction from his individual event talnt right now. His performance in the 60 this season has been breathtaking for such a lanky guy. Very Usain-like really, both athletically and in terms of charisma.
Grant Holloway is doing a great job. You do not specifically ask if Holloway could be a successful decathlon athlete. We do not know. Pole vault and throws would require significant investment of time. Some posters have stated 1500m. I am sure Holloway could race sub-4:30 1500m today. If Holloway altered his training could he race 4:14.xx 1500m as did Ashton Eaton? Yes. I have no idea about Holloway and the pole vault and throws.