Can we give props to YARED NUGUSE of Notre Dame and to whomever started the following thread a few weeks ago.
Can we give props to YARED NUGUSE of Notre Dame and to whomever started the following thread a few weeks ago.
This kid had the talent to run a sub 4 last year as a HSer. It’s great to see real talent get developed properly for once. This make a you wonder, are other talents like Sam Worley and Cooper Teare being “underdeveloped” in comparison or is this kid just excelling.
German Fernandez obviously had a huge jump from HS to College and the same goes for Robby Andrews. Perhaps it’s more so the proper transitioning in training and volume rather than the athlete themselves that ends up being the main factor.
Funnily enough, Waleed Sulliman actually had a very simalar progression to Nuguse since High School. Nuguse was a 4:06 and 9:06(3200) guy while Suliman was a 4:04 and a 1:51 runner. This season Nuguse has improved to a 4:02 (3:56 1600 split) and 8:04(3k) guy while Suliman has improved to a 4:00 and 1:48 runner.
The main difference between the two is one is the head honcho and the other is a bit of third-ringer. Interesting to consider what could’ve happened had they been in opposing situations.
Btw, I’m surprised no one mentioned it, but why did Oregon not front their main squad? Obviously Brown is busy, but I don’t think Over heard of any of the guys beside Stanovsek on the relays.
Overall, Cheers to Nuguse!
Yep, three cheers for a guy who was 20 years old as a HS senior. lol
For the record, can I now say I feel a little duped. for writing a "fake news headline."
I'd heard he was a walkon and now hear he ran 4:06 in HS and 4:12 as a junior. That's not a walkon. That's someone they recruited, but just didn't give money to for some combo of the following reasons i) he either could afford it ii) was getting enough financial aid or iii) they ran out of money.
How did he walk him down if it was a running race?
MeHereYouWhere?! wrote:
How did he walk him down if it was a running race?
Um, ever hear of Julie Moss?
These highly selectives have a big advantage in terms of recruiting if they were smart enough and energetic enough to take advantage. I assume that he is going for free while using no scholarship. Notre Dame has a system that charges based on income and assets. This kid is probably smart and has Parents who are in the normal middle class. Most of us think we are middle class when we are actually upper middle class. If the kid’s parents make under $100k, he would paying very little to attend.
He looked great. I was shocked to see him pass Fisher. Probably the first time that most casual fans ever heard of him. Looks like a kid to keep an eye on. I expect to see him in the 1500 outdoor finals. I never expected Notre Dame to be second in the DMR. They have 3 stud distance recruits next year so they have probably rebounded from their several year disappearance.
Anyone else think Fisher has been a little off since his NCAA title? He's had some great races for anyone--2nd at Wisconsin, 1st at Pac-12, 5th at NCAA, some decent DMR splits, 7:48 3k--but it all just seems a little less than what he's capable of. He was a force last spring season, and right now he just seems like a very good NCAA athlete.
ShipYard wrote:
Anyone else think Fisher has been a little off since his NCAA title? He's had some great races for anyone--2nd at Wisconsin, 1st at Pac-12, 5th at NCAA, some decent DMR splits, 7:48 3k--but it all just seems a little less than what he's capable of. He was a force last spring season, and right now he just seems like a very good NCAA athlete.
What about Sean McGorty, too? He was a heavy hitter at one point. Last night he ran what looked like a decent but unremarkable DMR leg.
My daughter is a freshman at the high school where Nuguse graduated last year (Dupont Manual High in Louisville). They have the benefit of a truly great coach who really gets it. Coach was saying Nuguse did 40ish miles per week through high school.
Great coach? Sounds like the kid ran 4:06 in talent. He has made a large improvement .
ShipYard wrote:
Anyone else think Fisher has been a little off since his NCAA title? He's had some great races for anyone--2nd at Wisconsin, 1st at Pac-12, 5th at NCAA, some decent DMR splits, 7:48 3k--but it all just seems a little less than what he's capable of. He was a force last spring season, and right now he just seems like a very good NCAA athlete.
I think I get what you're saying, and I had the same thought after NCAA XCs in November. Like you said, he's had some darn good results, but at XC champs, he went out extremely conservatively. He was in the 30th or something after a mile. Afterwards, he said that he was doing that for his team because he didn't want to go out too hard and blow up, but I don't know man. He's one of the true studs in the NCAA, or at least I think he is, and he said after that XC champs that he didn't think he could hang with those guys up front, which is part of why he hung back. That just seemed odd to me. I know he's probably more 1500/5k type than 5k/10k, but it was still weird for him to be so sure he couldn't hang with when he's a 13:30 guy. That's the type of thing guys should be thinking about him, not vice versa.
Stanfordeh wrote:
ShipYard wrote:
Anyone else think Fisher has been a little off since his NCAA title? He's had some great races for anyone--2nd at Wisconsin, 1st at Pac-12, 5th at NCAA, some decent DMR splits, 7:48 3k--but it all just seems a little less than what he's capable of. He was a force last spring season, and right now he just seems like a very good NCAA athlete.
What about Sean McGorty, too? He was a heavy hitter at one point. Last night he ran what looked like a decent but unremarkable DMR leg.
McGorty's been injured forever, and the 1200 last night was fairly tactical. I'm willing to give him a pass. I think Milt is probably trying to keep him healthy over the next few months so he can have a good senior spring and get a good contract.
This is so nitpicky that I feel bad--both McGorty and Fisher are running really well--but they're runners who lived up to the hype around them, and right now they aren't. Maybe Fisher is being an academic heavyweight instead of running? He's a smart kid doing a hard major at Stanford, so that could explain things.
Stanfordeh wrote:
What about Sean McGorty, too? He was a heavy hitter at one point. Last night he ran what looked like a decent but unremarkable DMR leg.
I agree about McGorty's leg yesterday but that is also typical of the event. The DMR 1200 leg is much of a "just hang with the leaders and don't get into too much trouble" leg. Few teams attempt to take advantage of a guy who might be able to outrun the rest of the first leg by 2 secs as it carries some risk.
I also thought Fisher may have gotten too caught up with Kerr and ran with him too long instead of moving a bit earlier to establish some contact. That may not have worked either but he stood no chance doing what he did.
Why were they walking?
I think the most impressive part about Yared’s anchor was how much of a last gear he had splitting 3:56. He didn’t just pass West and Fisher in the end, he put some room on them in the last 50 or 60 meters. I agree with the dude who said it above, let’s expect to see him in the 1500 final outdoors. Watch out!
hats off to Coach Holman wrote:
My daughter is a freshman at the high school where Nuguse graduated last year (Dupont Manual High in Louisville). They have the benefit of a truly great coach who really gets it. Coach was saying Nuguse did 40ish miles per week through high school.
I was going to mention this guy's high school. Dupont Manual is a public magnet school in Louisville and I think the highest achievers in the system go there. He may have received some academic aide that reduced the need for an athletic scholarship. Also, Nuguse is a minority, so Notre Dame may have given him extra aide for that. I know that sounds like jumping to race-based conclusions, but I had a high school friend whose family was Muslim and from the Middle East (not rich or anything, his dad worked at the Post Office), and Notre Dame actively recruited him and offered him incentives to attend their school.
But the kid is clearly smart, talented, and hard working in his own right. Congrats to him and great run.
Fun fact; if you don't get money you are a walk-on.
MeHereYouWhere?! wrote:
How did he walk him down if it was a running race?
And had the lead on Grant
nope. a walk-on is someone who has to hit a standard to get onto the team and usually isn't wanted on the team as compared to the recruits. this kid doesn't fit the definition of a walk-on at all, any person with a functioning brain and common sense can realize that. this kid was probably guaranteed a spot and sought after by the coach. wrong