Njcaa nationals

CantWeAllJustGetAlong wrote:

moreofaclub wrote:

Cheerleading just became more of a sport to me than these fools...can not believe they can ruin a coach over a push and in COLLEGE ATHLETICS my daughters softball team gets in worse fights. I second 2nd man card revoked

Ouch, that one's got to hurt track and field man. Alright how about the two people involved figure a way to talk it out like adults. Have a drink, Vince you already know you're buying, sorry man but you should not have pushed him. Now these damn ADs and whoever else is trying to take away a voice from out sport lost their leg that they were standing up on. Not sure how the law works but just a random thought.

The minute the TS coached called the cops it was no longer even about someone getting pushed and out of those two hands. It gave some dirty region 6 ADs and coachs away to get Vince from exposing how things really work and Vince is at a school with an AD who just wants to do what he is told basically there is a reason that school only has one sport bringing home the titles, banners, trophies, etc really sad his AD just wants to hide from hit not address it or fight for Vince. Rumor from last weeks AD meeting Vince would be better off quitting now.

Track and Field does now look like the b!t $h sport. This is college athletics and every football and basketball coach would be in the slammer at least once or twice a season if we had tracks attitude and pretty much wipe footballs sport out if they all got fired. NJCAA rule book has already been thrown out the window including by DeGrados own school so you know the soccer/ad isnt going to call anyone out on the laws heck I doubt he knows them

moneyonthetable wrote:

Track and Field does now look like the b!t $h sport. This is college athletics and every football and basketball coach would be in the slammer at least once or twice a season if we had tracks attitude and pretty much wipe footballs sport out if they all got fired. NJCAA rule book has already been thrown out the window including by DeGrados own school so you know the soccer/ad isnt going to call anyone out on the laws heck I doubt he knows them

Our track coach sent this to us last night so i decided to give it a read. Unfortunately we all think Allen is a joke when it comes to sports as a whole. Men's basketball has shown promise, Baseball is improving. Vince's program stands out so much we really don't even consider it part of Allen. The way Allen is handling this makes us think Allen only pee's sitting down. Sorry but not a good look for you guys on the united front.

Also got this sent to me by another coach...Im having trouble moving past the fundraising for rings. After reading that went and took a look at DeGrados stats new he had a very good reputation but hence the vaginal issues in tjis sport never followed. If Im reading it right DeGrado has fundraised for what 3 sets of rings in basically a year/year and half??? What is wrong with Allen do make the dude raise money for winning? Let him get f&u $k out of a season, than region meet, because they dont know the by-laws. Your punishing him for freaking winning national titles...yep cheerleading moved up in my book...smh what is wrong with you people

Woowwww. I just stepped away for a few days and this has blown up. At least this gets people talking from all different sports. The only way to change a dirty situation is to expose the truth. Unfortunately its at the expense of somebody's career. I hope somewhere along the way it gets exposed and Vince comes out on top. We need more outspoken people like you in our sport. Just maybe a little less aggressive next time especially when you had knives aimed at your back for a long time, just didn't know who was holding them until now.

aretheydrunk wrote:

Also got this sent to me by another coach...Im having trouble moving past the fundraising for rings. After reading that went and took a look at DeGrados stats new he had a very good reputation but hence the vaginal issues in tjis sport never followed. If Im reading it right DeGrado has fundraised for what 3 sets of rings in basically a year/year and half??? What is wrong with Allen do make the dude raise money for winning? Let him get f&u $k out of a season, than region meet, because they dont know the by-laws. Your punishing him for freaking winning national titles...yep cheerleading moved up in my book...smh what is wrong with you people

I was told about this by our coach so. I've been following this for a while but have not commented until now but to answer your question yes Allen had to also fundraise for out of state scholarships. I don't know if this has changed, its been a while but each sport is allowed a certain amount of scholarships based on NJCAA roster rules that the school would pay for then after their allotted amount they are responsible for raising the rest. I believe Vince's was 5 for both xc/track per gender. So every sport is at a disadvantage. The school has a lot of advantages it really does, the only thing is every coach has to do SO many different jobs really burns you out and questions if its worth it. They just don't coach either, Vince is also the fitness director at the college too. I always liked him he laid low for the most part never really going out with us coaches when we would have drinks but he was always working like all of the time. I'm really surprised he even is still there to be honest. Vince might be a little tough to handle sometimes but I tell you what, when you're winning at the rate he's won its worth it plus he's down to earth. Good luck buddy.

okay former Allen Coach I to am shocked over fundraising for your national title wins...if you win it causes you more work...all of this is crazy but a coach having to take on more work to get his national title rings????

DeGrado hold your head high this is NOT how college athletics works your in the wrong sport and you have nothing to prove to these jacka$$ girls...lets get you out of there buddy just think what you could do with others who have your back and wont put up with this nonsense.

isittrue wrote:

okay former Allen Coach I to am shocked over fundraising for your national title wins...if you win it causes you more work...all of this is crazy but a coach having to take on more work to get his national title rings????

Vince never won a National title at Allen he won those while at Cowley back in 2010 or 11 not sure which but he had this big a$$ ring with 2 trophies on it thats how we all knew if he had a recruit. He seemed to only wear it when he had a recruit, other then that it just set in his desk. We would ask why don't you wear that around, he always thought coaches who had to do that all of the time were insecure about their abilities and it will lose its appeal after a while. I just know if he's winning at Allen he is working his a$$ off but like I said there is some good things to that school and Iola, KS. Just hope they don't lose him because he leaves that team will scatter. He came in with a little cult of runners if I remember right. Most didn't even visit, just knew where he was at they were coming.

Can everybody please stop discussing the incident involving the coaches that involved an arrest and jail time and focus more on those athletes who performed well and stood out on the track instead?

This is not just about the coaches! It is about the athletes and their accomplishments and stories.

Yeah when I won national title at allen in an event we had to fundraise for our rings!

Just got wind of this and its a damn shame. I was at Allen with coach degrado and coach davis. DeGrado and his family are some of the very best all around great people best thanksgiving of my life was at coachs house and Im real sorry to hear about Ed real sorry. Coach DeGrado really actually stays to himself will he call a mf out you better believe it but they would of had to come to come to him. Coach DeGrado aint going to be found rubbing elbows not his seen and he helps all sports basketball got in a bind DeGrado had us eating up at his church but gave it up to basketball had his mother in law and two other church ladies feed them and then his wife by herself cooked three meals a day for a week while working her job because the cafeteria at the school would not honor the athletic calendar. DeGrado may not have the support of a few has been old white dudes but he damn straight has support and has made more than a sport better he has made athletes better always new coach would do anything for us athletes now we know he will litteraly fight for us...realest coach ever! We know who DeGrado is as a coach and person. I hope the region gets called on the rule book they preach about so much.

Cowley was cross country both men and women same year...check the track stats at allen do believe he has at least one 4x8 national title maybe two, his Allen track teams have brought some impressive hardware home. Pretty sure some of his Allen Alum could help me out but he has rings from more than just cowley probably has decorated allen more so than cowley and def more than Allen ever seen from any sport ever. He hands down has done more at Allen than Cowley

Its sad to admit but I have never minus the eligibility portion really read the NJCAA or ethics handbook my AD is all over it for me have a new apperciation for him now. The NJCAA is the most straight forward clear cut handbook Ive ever read. Suggest people read it and it was definitely not followed and it seems after reading Allen AD helped in letting a coach and program get crucified. If this happened at my school every board member along with community members would be in the presidents office asking all kinds of questions. DeGrado goes either by choice or not kids will scatter and so will the loss of the revenue of his program.

This hunt for DeGrado started long begore last year. Myself and at least two other got emails from a certain coach when DeGrado announced he would be going to Allen. The email repeatedly talks how DeGrado only thinks he can have a successful program and he how it won't ever happen just bashed DeGrado hard for even thinking he could have any success at "that Allen". I never ran for DeGrado nor the school who sent the email but I know for a fact DeGrado was forwarded that email from another who got the same email right after it happened he never that I know of used it against anyone just let it slide off his back. No one wanted to see DeGrado succeed and the knives came out in 2011.

Man I really hope they follow the handbook treat him as any other coach in any other sport at any other school make him sit out the first indoor and let him and the program be anything more harsh than just continues to keep light on the situation. DeGrado has to be feeling as if he has no support if all is true and his school let the by-laws get throw to the wind that alone is worse for a coach than anything else. Has anyone heard for sure that his school/region really did pass down something outside of what the by-laws say?

We want “fight” details. Did the coach from Trinidad State use an open hand b$&ch slap after he got shoved?

Did his running mouth cause the issue to escalate?

He called the police. What a pu$$. Ingrained in his DNA.

Probably stuck his tongue out at kids when he was little.

Called his mommy to come stop the girls from hissing at him.

Hurt is little feelings.

During lunch some this was being discusssed read and the whole thing was just way over the top and in any other college sport we hopefully are protected really questioning that now. More than one time I would of been in jail. What bothered my is it was said DeGrado only got 1 minute with his wife and was worried about getting kids home safely didnt think to tell her what jail or details. She had to figure it all out from 11 hours away with nothing to go on. My wife would of been a mess but I know my AD would of stepped in to help her...really bothers me his wife also was left alone

Y'all need to use paragraphs for God sake.

BTW it's amusingly obvious that one person has made a bunch of posts pretending to be different people.